If I have have a super stud 14U HS state placer, I'm probably convincing him to wrestle in the HS div at KIDS state. If I have a 14U HS kid who wasn't a factor in HS (for whatever reason), I would tend to give him the opportunity at the 2nd year of 14U at KIDS state... the same opportunity that half the other freshmen had as eighth graders. As compared to convincing him to go have his ass handed to him in the HS div. The super studs will float to the top... let the other ones battle it out!