I can see both Andy and Bob's points here in this discussion. Andy has a great point. The camp is down 30 kids (I could be wrong and I am sure someone will correct me if I am). Why is this was the question I believe Andy was asking.

I am only guessing but maybe that Western, Ks might not be the correct stage for our numbers to be high at a camp like this? If you compare the numbers of FS/GR kids from the Far West to Central to Eastern Kansas I assume the West has a smaller number of athletes than Central, KS and Central, KS has a smaller number of FS/GR athletes than East Kansas. I am not saying I know the answer here, this is just my way of asking a question.... I could be 100% wrong and if I am, I am 100% sure somebody will get on here and let me know about it!

As far as high school coaches being involved. That is a tough dynamic. As far as the Club Folkstyle season is concerned, we are just hosed there until KSHSAA changes rules of contact. As far as Freestyle... HWC miss a majority of this season as well as it KSHSAA still has us on a no contact period until a certain date.

Now I know the summers are fair game for All Coaches now but just b/c a coach is involved, does not mean kids will always attend. I was on staff the past 5 season in Fargo. During that time I have coached hundreds of athletes from my school team. However, only a select few attend any summer stuff. Those few that put in the time are being rewarded for it now with pretty good careers, but just b/c the coach is there, does not always mean the kids will follow.

Now, Southern Plains did open up the same week that Football Teams started practicing again and getting ready for their Team Camps. Again, I don't know how to attack this issue but Football coaches want their kids at their camps and events just as bad as we wrestlers want our kids as well. Usually, football wins out in this race as during football you don't have to work as hard, you get minutes off between reps, you get to eat and be fat and happy and to most it's more fun than a wrestling tournament.

So there are many questions to ask that I don't have the answers to honestly:

Was moving from Hays the right choice?

Do we have the proper staff/clinicians in place (Touchy subject and I am just being objective and not calling out anybody)?

Where is the best location in Kansas to get the most kids there? (Emporia seems like a great place as ESU has dorms and a facility that could be used to lodge and train at, not too mention pretty centrally located).

Are we advertising right to get kids there?

Are the dates the best dates to get kids there?

And probably many other questions.

Again, so nobody gets their feelings hurt I am not calling anybody out. But when the news came out that SP was down 30 kids that's an alarming number honestly. Can we put our heads together collectively and remedy this situation?