Bullseye!!

Byes do not go to higher seeds. Byes are drawn in randomly either by the computer or by hand.

Shoot it could be worse than that. For instance, a large tourney such as Basehor. A kid could get a bye on the front side, earn 4 team points, lose a match, and get a bye on the backside lose a match and score another 3 team points. He would have 2 victories and 7 team points without winning a match or maybe even scoring a point.

First we need to define a BYE. That is when there is NO TEAM to present a wrestler into the bracket. For instance, if you only have 15 teams and a 16 man bracket there will be a BYE. You should apply the traditional point earning to that situation. If you have a team that doesn't have a wrestler it would be an OPEN ie. OPEN Silver Lake so that would be a forfeit. It is not the opposing team's responsibility to fill other teams' rosters. If you don't bring a wrestler you don't earn points and the other teams get a forfeit. Simple.

And in a dual tourny with 2 forfiets he would be 2-0 with 12 team points. Whats the difference, either way its a forfiet because the opposing team didnt bring a wrestler.

Now you might have a viable arguement if you change the meaning of a bye and an open. How the heck do you spell check on this forum?

Thats what I was trying to say in my original post.

There is no spell checker..

Random draws for byes is a myth in my opinion, almost every tourny that my son has been the 1 or 2 seed in a non full brcket he has had a bye.

www.kshsaa.org/Publications/Wrestling.pdf

Please read page 12 of 44

1.G.1 and also read NFHS reference numbers

I understand what some are advocating - but I also understand the rules as they currently stand.

We all know what the rules are! That's the point of this entire discussion.

I agree with Will. There is a big difference between a "bye" and a "forfeit".

Are KHSAA wrestling events team events or individual events?????

Uhhh oh

Harry is right on the mark. The reason behind is that the bye is placed by a blind draw. There is no perfect fix for all's views but no way someone should score points for not winning a match. Everyone has the same chance of drawing the bye or not getting it. What was harder as a wrestler was not getting that match to help with wieght and then as a coach wanting that chance at bonus points. (Harry we had a couple regional titles that came down to one point here or there so those byes were a big part) What I think is a bigger crime is having a 8 man bracket in a state qualifier. Thats not getting your best kids on to the dance.. for an old guy Harry is still pretty sharp.