Prant, would it not be Wenzel Dashington or am I to infer that this whole flip thing is only for wrestling people and does not apply to the "real world"? And if that is the case, what about Meston Wikoleit? Is it just for older wrestling people or for people you like, or don't like in the case of Chike Murch? You need to be more consistent with this whole thing because as is, I am not sure on the reasoning.