KSHSAA State Placers at Subs
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Can KSHSAA state placers wrestle in the 14u div or do they have to move up to high school div?
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Re: KSHSAA State Placers at Subs
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According to the rules this year, they would be required to wrestle the high school division if they were a state placer. At least that is how I understood it at the district and state meetings.
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District Directors need to check their 14u brackets.
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That motion failed to pass the State body. They can wrestle 14&U.
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if you are a kshaa state placer why would you want to compete in 14u,unless you are running?
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Running from what? Their own age group? Are you really shooting your mouth off at 14 year old kids?
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8th grade has always been one of the years for many wrestlers to get their first taste of high school wrestling. It is a natural progression. I have had several 8th graders (very good wrestlers)who did not make it to state at 14 & under and then they went on to have tremendous high school careers. It is what it is and currently this age group has a choice to stay in their age group or wrestle up in the high school division 14-19 year olds.
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Re: KSHSAA State Placers at Subs
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Plenty of discussion on this topic in the past and rightfully so.
Many of the top wrestling states have Kids state with a High School Division. They only allow 8th graders and under in the Kids divisions. I have no problem with a high school non-placer to wrestle in the Kids divisions but firmly believe that a high school state placer and especially a high school state champion should wrestle in the high school division, like they have all year long.
I find it surprising and strange that a high school state champion would wrestle in a lower division.
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I would agree on State Champions not wrestling 14U, but I am curious how many State Champions would qualify for 14U. I doubt very many State Champions are even wrestling the Kids series.
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I am going to have to disagree Chief, I think that it should be left up to the kid. Why punish a 14 year old for being successful?
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Furthermore, you are robbing our best 8th graders of a chance to prove themselves against high schoolers. I just think a rule like this would ruin the integrity of the 14u championships.
Dylan Penka
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Yep!! Lol I think im over 100 post
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Re: KSHSAA State Placers at Subs
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I just think a rule like this would ruin the integrity of the 14u championships. We have a 14U Kids division and a High School Division. A High School wrestler in the Kids division? Talk about ruining the integrity! There is a very good reason that the top wrestling states in the country disagree with you on this Dylan.
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Re: KSHSAA State Placers at Subs
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Why punish a 14 year old for being successful? A 14 year old that just won a High School State Championship being required to wrestle in the High School division is punishment? Why would he want to go wrestle 7th graders?
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I have had several 8th graders (very good wrestlers)who did not make it to state at 14 & under and then they went on to have tremendous high school careers. Had they made it to state, would their careers have been worse?
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I think making a rule was to rigid.
I do think it is worthy to challenge some of these kids/coaches/parents that are state placer why they would wrestle 14 U. Some point people might miss is that it is for team points, and the larger teams are looking at that also. Which is another heated topic.
Beeson I think there are alot more than you think, just around my boys weigh there are 5-6.
Tracy Peterson Buhler, KS
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My guess is most of those freshman wrestlers are actually 15 not 14 but it makes little difference.
Fortune assists the daring.
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Just wrestle.....Wherever, whenever, whoever....Just wrestle!!!
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