I also find it ironic that a lot of people on here are the same folks that complain about limiting opportunities for kids such as travel restrictions, middle schoolers not being able to practice with clubs, etc now want to limit kids and make it "more fair" for 14u non-hs wrestlers. What is wrong with giving the 14u eighth graders a chance to compete against the hs state placers? Let those kids have a chance to compete against the best.

Just because other states don't do this doesn't make it correct. Heck, a lot of other states have a special division for private schools.....a lot of folks supporting this idea vehemently disagree with the private school separate division.

Every year on the hs board there is debate about the class system and how "easy" it is for kids to qualify for hs state and how easy it is to place at certain hs state in certain divisions. Now a lot of these same folks are concerned about an unfair advantage for these HS state placers. Which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Chief,
Please provide evidence of how you determined the best wrestling states. What organizations determined this and what criteria was used or is your response based of polls from intermat, flow, etc. which are somewhat informed opinion polls very similar to the Kansas High School rankings?

What evidence shows that not having 14U hs placers compete only in a high school division actually makes those states better at wrestling? Having a hard time following the logic on that one.

Shawn Budke