Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/15/17 04:26 PM
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for the purposes of this debate statistics from late Saturday forward are not relevant, it has already been established that LATE Saturday's/Sunday's weather cancellations are not being questioned so you might need to adjust those fatality numbers
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/15/17 05:03 PM
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I will take away the emotion of being a parent of one of the wrestlers this weekend. Ok they would of could of should of held a tournament but they didn't. Some people made a decision to not host because of weather forecast. Some people did not listen to stay off roads and there were some bad accidents.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/16/17 12:11 AM
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I would rather die living than live in fear of death. Be a warrior, not a worrier.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/16/17 04:30 PM
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I am ok with that Beeson as long as EVERY one gets a metal and no one gets hurt. I know 3 people that died on the toilet,so I never set on it. I just hover over it.I know this sounds bad. But I am sure I have saved my life 100+ times all ready.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/16/17 06:20 PM
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I am grateful that all of the kids are OK. I'm so glad the seat belts on the bus helped them. Wait, what seat belts?
Well you're just a special kind of stupid aren't you?
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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Glad the Dodge City team made it back safe and sound as well as the other teams http://ksn.com/2017/01/16/thousands-without-power-in-western-kansas/Rolling the dice with ice "Friday (late-evening): Crews in the Wichita area responded to several wrecks Friday night. By 9 p.m., a spokeswoman for Via Christi says Via Christi's three campuses had treated eight patients involved in ice-related car wrecks. Another nine were treated for ice-related falls. Two people were hospitalized with minor injuries and more than 20 vehicles were piled up in a crash reported a little before 7 p.m. on westbound Kellogg at the Central Business District. Westbound Kellogg was closed at the Central Business District exit. Drivers were also asked to avoid the area of K-96 and Oliver where multiple crashes had the highway congested. East of Wichita, Butler County Sheriff Kelly Herzet says crews responded to several wrecks on U-54, west of Augusta. Crews in Butler County also worked an accident involving two semis.No one was seriously hurt."
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/16/17 07:32 PM
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I drive 70 the entire way home. No ice at all, straight through the danger zone. Junction city would have been safer driving home after the tournament Saturday. Warm and sunny. Poor decision by a basketball loving, wrestling hating administration.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/16/17 08:27 PM
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I doubt if Stillwell, OK takes I-70 to get to Kansas all the way home from the Bobcat
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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It's about time You spoke up Beeson. I think they just needed a 4 day weekend.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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I'm saying I drove up Friday, drove home Friday, drive up Saturday, and drive home Saturday. Not one problem. Roads were 200% clear. I'm sure sStillwell or whoever else went would have been fine as well. Bottom line they jumped the gun, tournament should not have been canceled. Remember this for next year when scheduling. Do you really want to go to a tournament that may not happen?
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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These cancelations are from the same storm - good thing it did not hit when the Cheesehead Classic was http://wixx.com/cancellations/• • Issuing Office: Green Bay Source: National.Weather.Service 3:16pm CST, Mon Jan 16 ... WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL NOON CST TUESDAY... * TIMING... EXPECT A WINTRY MIX OF SNOW... SLEET... AND FREEZING RAIN TO CONTINUE INTO THIS EVENING... BEFORE TRANSITIONING MORE TO A RAIN AND FREEZING RAIN MIX OVERNIGHT. THE PRECIPITATION WILL GRADUALLY DIMINISH TUESDAY MORNING. * SNOW AND ICE ACCUMULATIONS... FREEZING RAIN WILL RESULT IN A GLAZE 1/10 TO 2/10 OF AN INCH THICK ON OUTDOOR SURFACES. A TOTAL ACCUMULATION OF SLEET AND SNOW OF AROUND AN INCH IS POSSIBLE. * AIR TEMPERATURES ARE LIKELY TO WARM TO NEAR OR A LITTLE ABOVE FREEZING OVERNIGHT OR TUESDAY MORNING. THIS WILL LESSEN THE LIKELIHOOD THAT SIGNIFICANT A LAYER OF ICE WILL DEVELOP ON TREES AND POWER LINES. BUT THE GROUND WILL BE MUCH SLOWER TO WARM. AS A RESULT... ICE IS LIKELY TO CONTINUE TO ACCRUE ON UNTREATED ROADS... SIDEWALKS... AND PARKING LOTS INTO TUESDAY MORNING. * IMPACTS... THE SLEET AND FREEZING RAIN WILL RESULT IN UNTREATED PAVEMENT BECOMING VERY SLIPPERY. TRAVEL COULD BECOME EXTREMELY HAZARDOUS. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY MEANS THAT MIXED WINTRY PRECIPITATION WILL CAUSE TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES. BE PREPARED FOR SLIPPERY ROADS AND LIMITED VISIBILITIES... AND USE CAUTION WHILE DRIVING. THE LATEST WISCONSIN ROAD CONDITIONS CAN BE OBTAINED BY CALLING 511. && More Information ... HAZARDOUS TRAVEL LIKELY TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY... .A STORM SYSTEM TRACKING NORTHEAST FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS INTO THE GREAT LAKES WILL BRING WIDESPREAD PRECIPITATION TO THE AREA TONIGHT INTO TUESDAY. A WINTRY MIX OF PRECIPITATION IS FORECAST FOR TONIGHT... THEN GRADUALLY DIMINISH TUESDAY MORNING. HAZARDOUS TRAVEL CONDITIONS CAN BE EXPECTED AS THE PRECIPITATION OVERSPREADS THE AREA.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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01/16/17 10:16 PM
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I have already asked our AD to please get us into a different event!
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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and this might just be the thing that convinces Smokey of the impact this situation has on the sport he advocates for specifically here in KS ....if I'm the Stillwell, OK or Highlands Ranch, CO coach and my wrestlers lost a weekend of competition because a bunch of pansy school administrators canceled a tournament in Kansas because of some sensationalized weather forecast on a for profit web site, do I come back next year? maybe; but maybe not. is that a positive or negative for Kansas wrestling? It was a stupid, knee jerk, group think, indefenseable (despite the efforts of some) decision that will probably have a lasting impact on the integrity of maybe the premier high school tournament in our state and certainly on the competition season 2016-17 for KS high school wrestling FOR NO GOOD REASON! you can't be for Kansas wrestling and defend the decision to cancel the Bobcat and other tournaments on Friday and Saturday.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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weather happens all year long...the same administrators in Olathe that were so quick to wave off our high school wrestlers from their opportunities this weekend allowed two middle school football teams to play a meaningless night game at ODAC in the midst of a lightening storm that went on during 3 of 4 quarters of play and caused a halt to all soccer activities at both the Scheel's complex and Kansas Rush's Lone Elm facility just this fall...it is a joke
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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You guys are crackin' me up! Almost has the same tone as Democrats after the election! It's DONE!
My two cents: Can't fault them for cancelling one bit. 2-Day event, teams coming from all over and every source of information predicting ice accumulations, slick roads, downed tree limbs and power lines.
The forecast moved an NFL game. The NFL doesn't change game times.
Things to think about...teams traveling, staff to work the event, OFFICIALS must travel, maintenance staff must get the facility ready, parking lots, side walks, etc. Every bit of information available predicting terrible accumulating ice. If they had the event and nobody could get home, they'd be blasted for that about right now.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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I would venture to say it was a liberal Democrat that made the decision.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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Dodge City schools still closed - some residents staying at the community college Because of no power at home, businesses, etc - I suppose the Dodge City bus driver dodged the ice literally on the way back Saturday - lucky the storm slowed down in the mountains.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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It was more dangerous when they went home early at midnight, than if they waited till noon when it was warmer. We can argue this till next year, and I won't be convinced the right decision was made. I rely on common sense instead of politics.
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Re: Hum - Bus accident
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Sorry Gary, have to call you out. We can fault them just like we can fault a couple teams in our own home county. The forecast in this area 24 plus hours before kickoff called for natta chance of precipitation BEFORE late Saturday evening. I am sure the powers that be knew this, because on Friday they allowed the Courger GIRLS basketball team to drive right past Newton on their way to compete in Wichita. Also, a small tidbit from Assaria....the Trojan girls traveled to Bellville Friday night.....where were the wrestling MEN?
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