One thing to understand too is that Smokey who wrestled in college in the early to mid 1980's has seen a heart breaking decline in the number of college wrestling programs especially at the D-1 level nationally. I believe the college he wrestled at Indiana State no longer has a NCAA wrestling program. Having been a first hand witness to this great decline in college wrestling programs nationwide and now seeing declining overall participation numbers Smokey is actively trying to raise awareness here on the forum and facilitate discussion on possible causes and solutions. He truly would just like to see this trend change and be part of the solution.