Thanks for addressing this never ending problem Lance. I was at the far end of the gym yesterday when I thought I saw an official show the optional start sign to the bottom wrestler so I made my way down there and sure enough a 2nd time seconds later optional start again when he was up like 9-0 . Kid was out front with a snake in deep and had him on his back before the bottom wrestler knew what hit him. I felt sorry for the kid, obviously dad in this case, was the one who put him there. Not his fault someone made a bad choice entering him there.