If you wrestle 215 in high school you can cut to 197 I cut down to 184 and I'm not the chunkiest guy in the world...I was always pretty lean. I wish Chris Jennings would wrestle in college it would be fun to see...I think if he hit the weights real well he'd make a pretty good HWT. On that 1-7 season I had in college I did farely well against the Big Boys match score wise for the amount of weight I was giving up.