Thanks Prant.

JJETC & spikegreeley:

How many guys on your team are jv and have beat state placers and how many previous varsity guys have placed in state but are now on jv?

Its no big deal, just part of being 6A.

Just like tougher Regionals in 4A.

So get over it and realize it all comes out in the wash.

Oh one more thing--

At the Beloit Invite last weekend, Jacob Wagner beat Geske of Abilene. I believe Geske is a 4a state champ. He then went on to lose (questionably...) to the Hoxie 125 (who I believe is a state finalist) in the finals.

Up until last Friday, Wagner had been JV. Now he's a 4a state champ...but he's from 6a, so he probably couldn't have made it through the 321a or 4a regionals.

*Swish.*
*Count it.*
*Prant: 1 million billion, Spike: 0*

Prant you must have been praying to the wrestling god’s Super Bubba returns!
And he will avenge his second place finish at JC today. We will see how tough 119 really is with a lowly JV kid winning it… Also that’s Andrew Wagner, Jacob hasn’t wrestled for a couple of years. Plus we got eight graders that could place at 4a State.

*Swish.*
*Count it.*
*Plus Two*

Red

Geske is not a state champ. Do some research before you make a comment like that. I will agree that there are some good JV kids at the 5a and 6a level that sometimes get stuck behind stud wrestlers.

Prant Garker-
Who did Kyle Potter lose to in the wrestle offs and what was the score. That is shocking that he is on JV!

I will start this post with a disclaimer:
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In no way is this post an indication as to which class is the toughest. It is simply a situation that I have personnally seen.
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There are 3-2-1A schools who have the same depth as the 6A schools that you are discussing. Since I am old and senile, I don't remeber names, or exact years but these are true stories.

Wakeeney (Trego County) had a junior win state at Heavyweight. The next year a junior beat out the returning state champ, and won state the next 2 years. This was before 215 was a weight class so the JV former State Champ would have had to lose about 60-70 pounds to wrestle the next class down.
(If anyone out there knows the names of these individuals I would appreciate it).

Leoti also had a returning placer on JV in 1194-95 season (the year they jacked the weights all up). He couldn't find a spot because the weights were distributed so strangely.

Norton- This year. Returning state champ (Madden-112) goes down with a knee injury. His backup wins the Norton Tourney and performed very well at Newton. Norton's JV 171 pounder also placed at Newton.

There is depth at every class. There are also schools in every class with 0 depth. That said, it stands to reason that a 16 man bracket is tougher to make it through than an 8 man bracket. I still believe the top 6 wrestlers in each weight class are very equitable. The toughness varies from class to class depending on the year(I have now been associated with teams in each division: 6A, 5A, 4A, & 3-2-1A).

Well put coachtwink but I think we should all resolve the argument and appreciate that fact that we aren't playing basketball

1194-95? Holy smokes, that has to go down in history as the first state placer in the history of the universe. Who did he wrestle against, seeing as there were no other schools on the continent? Seeing how there would be so little competition at such an early date, doesn't that kind of take away the impressivness of being a state placer?