don't know about Bunch, but Johnston's route to the finals was not quite as you said, all he had to do was beat the no. 5 seed, percival of Ohio, and the #1 seed, tirapelle, of Illinois. the match with Tirapelle was decided by Johnston taking him down in the second period, then choosing to start in the neutral position, and taking him down again. If all Ks. wrestlers are mud turtles when it comes to takedowns, how did that happen? The fact is, even if you get a relatively "easy" draw, the whole supposed point of this thread seems to be that D1 guys are just so good that they could beat God and that no Kansas wrestler is fit to shine their shoes. That is just not the case, and I would submit to you that the performance of the Kansas competitors in the last 2 NCAA seasons pretty well bear that out. (By the way, this is not D. Fairleigh, but his Dad.)