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Re: regionals #39083 01/21/04 07:44 PM
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I have been in that situation my brother is a wrestler and i played basketball and wrestled basketball all through high school and it has happened to me i played basketball in 2 substates that had the 3 of the top 5 teams in 3A both times which my high school team was top 5 and the team that beat us played and won the state championship junior and senior year. and then 2 more that were top 10 state ranked teams. there fore 5 of the 8 teams were top 10 so i know ur situation and basketball there are what is called 8 substates and only the winner gets to go the state tournament and i know how it feels to have a stacked regional but we didnt grip about it or say it wasnt fair if we didnt win it was our teams fault the better team won thats sports trust me there were teams that we beat that made the tourney and i sure think that they werent deserving but hey we got beat thats all there is to it. so again yes life isnt fair and sports are a major part of a high majority of peoples lives. I now go to more wrestling matches then basketball games because i like watching and supporting my familey friends extra wrestlers where always my teams biggest and noiseist fans so i always paid that back to them by doing what they did.


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Re: regionals #39084 01/21/04 08:38 PM
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htown,

don't want to belabor the point, but this doesn't happen once in a while ,or three years in a row, of five out of eight. . . it happens EVERY YEAR. If it was an anomoly, it would be understandable, but it is EVERY YEAR.

My sons wrestled and have since completed their high school careers. It was difficult explaining to them that "life isn't fair" when wrestlers that they had defeated during the season made it to state from other regionals and they (my sons) were staying home. Fortunately they made it to "the show" but I know full well that had they lived elsewhere they would have made it multiple times.

Again, please don't equate sometimes, often, or sporadically with EVERY YEAR--it is NOT the same.

Re: regionals #39085 01/21/04 08:40 PM
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This debate pops up every year. Last year someone did keep track of the number of wrestlers placing from each regional although I do not have those numbers. I do remember that it was not until the 5 and 6 place medalists were counted did the two eastern regionals even put a dent in things. I think everyone agrees that the NT regional is the toughest but the other regionals will definetly have some tough kids. If a guy will do some research they will find that the toughest regional is ALWAYS the one with the most NW and NC teams(321A). EurekaHWT you say you would like to go to the NT regional-good for you. However if you ask your coach or any coach in another regional besides Nortons if they would like to switch what do you think the answer would be? And the reason they do not want to go is because it would cost them wrestlers in the state trny.

Re: regionals #39086 01/21/04 08:54 PM
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Big Daddy,

just for grins I keep track of the medal count each year; it is an unusual year that fewer than 50% of the medals come from the NW regional, and many years it approaches 60%--this is 40 - 50 of the 84 medals being won by 56 of the 224 wrestlers at State. When the two western regionals are totaled -- well, it just gets ugly.

Re: regionals #39087 01/22/04 03:18 AM
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Re: regionals #39088 01/22/04 03:58 AM
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Sorry bout that.

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You are probably right. Many coaches would not like to switch to the Norton Regional. As You Have stated it would cost them wrestlers at state.
But on this one I think I am going to have to go with you on this one."reason they do not want to go is because it would cost them wrestlers in the state trny." And UNFOTUNETLY that is the just of it. It should not be this way. For instance my soph. year We were in the garden plain regional. I made it to state along with seven of my teammates. Some of them, myself include would probably not have made it at the NW regional. Then my Junior year we went to Cottonwood Falls, I believe. I made it along with 5 of my teammates. I was certainly not deserving of this. 1/20/03 I was shot in the hip in a hunting accident. I was in the Hospital for a week, Then I was unable to compete/practice/run/lift/ect. for about 2 weeks. This put us one week before regionals. I managed to win Leauge with 3 pins and 0-1 dec. against me. So I guess you coul a gainst me. So I guess you could say I was in the worst shape of my career with a 3-1 record on my new season. I was seeded 1st at regionals and managed to squeeze in with an Injury default in the consolation finals for a 3rd. My state record ended as 0-2. At a NW regional I would probably never have made it to a state tournament.

DaleFish

If you look at the state brackets for last year you will notice that Klein wrestled Fine of Cherryvalle in the first round Klein managed to pin Fine at 2:51 I believe. Before my little accident I was pinning him in a minute or under. And by they way he is the one i Injured in the consolation finals at regionals


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Re: regionals #39089 01/22/04 05:33 AM
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Somebody said one time that the regional you go to is determined by distance...then explain why Goodland all the way from the west part of the State ends up at the same regional with SFT and Royal Valley in Abilene?


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Sweazy:

2003-2004 4A Regional Site Locations: Abilene, Andale, Coffeyville, and Hiawatha

Distance from Goodland, Kansas to Abilene, Kansas: Approximately 265 miles

Distance from Goodland, Kansas to Andale, Kansas: Approximately 345 miles

Distance from Goodland, Kansas to Coffeyville, Kansas: Approximately 485 miles

Distance from Goodland, Kansas to Hiawatha, Kansas: Approximately 420 miles

Goodland was assigned to the nearest geographically located regional.


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Re: regionals #39091 01/22/04 02:06 PM
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Whoa, that would have been a mean trip to Coffeyville. Of course Goodland and Colby are used to traveling long distances for regionals.

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