Farleigh, I see what you mean but I would counter by saying that in the days that Cramer and I and you were wrestling, teams didn't get together much during the season and there wasn't much of a mixing of the classes. Today they see each other all over the place and things have evened out across the state. I know that is a bitter thing for a former Western Kansas kid to say but its true. Once you get past the first round of the tourneys I don't think there is much to pick from in the classes. They are pretty even and hey if one was good four is even better. A state champ is a state champ and on any given day.... well you know how that goes. Tell Cramer I am sorry I misspelled his name, I always did that. I confuse him with the rich Kramer's loll. See ya