Hey Hasbeen, I think you missed the point of my post, I am not blaming the West kids entirely although everyone is resposible for their own behavior in this world, I am blaming the entire atmosphere they foster. If you think the behavior of their crowd and their coaches didnt have a major share of the blame for it you didnt watch or listen to them. You think West is the only squad that wrestles hard and physical. There is a good reason that everyone was after them and it wasn't that they were so tough it was that they acted so badly and I don't just mean the kids. Hey kids do what they are trained and allowed to do. You know exactly what I am saying here if you ever watched that whole show.