Nice stats and lots of work there SmokeyCabin. Thank you for trying so hard to make the figures work to prove that wrestling on your feet is not the most important part of the sport. How do you explain no nearfalls in 2005 finals? I've heard it said that figures don't lie but liars always figure. We're all talking about this because KS coaches, in general, teach a grab a wrist and ride'em out style without working too hard on top and the refs are accomplices in this degradation of our sport. It bores me to tears and doesn't help our kids. You guys need to see to venture out of your state just a little to see what's making the KC, MO kids so much better than what we've got in KS. Take a look at what Oak Park did to some of our better teams at Baldwin. Oak Park/Blue Springs Liberty and others are more consistent all over but especially from their feet. Great stances, active and heavy hands, superb hc series, underhook to snap down the head to front headlock series with knee taps, head in the hole, etc. Very good defense from neutral. Gibby, your tail feathers are ruffled because people in KS don't challenge each other like I'm challenging you. You and your hostile little camp claim I was just some guy typing away and not involved and pressed me into giving you a credential that you only get if you're a DI Champ, DI coach or DI AA and of course now you tell me that doesn't matter and that I still don't know what I'm talking about. That's fine and about what I expect. I guess DI Champs, AAs and coaches can't compete with the vast knowledge that we have here from the KS wrestling intelligentsia. Just like Klemm didn't have squat to do with helping to develop the three NCAA finalists in 2 years during their HS years. By the way, if any of you can tell me about one other KS coach who has had more NCAA finalists in their career let alone two years, I'll retire from this board. It's ludicruous and insulting that Klemm isn't getting credit from some of you and it backs up my earlier statement that he was not well thought of by the KS wrestling intelligentsia who dissed him by leaving him off freestyle teams. This isn't about me but my opinion that KS needs to evolve and it's clear that some of you have big problems with change. Good. I'm happy I pushed you out of your comfort zones.
