Kids wrestling fan, I am a jayhawk kids parent. All of the wrestlers that compete at novice tournaments for us are 1 year wrestlers. We took them all to Ottawa on Sat. to evaluate them and see if they were ready to move up to open. A few of them are. But it was to late to pull them at Topeka. If you are talking about any kid in particular please let one of our coaches know. You also must take into consideration that not all of their novice matches are not slams. 8 kids yesterday, 3 first, 2 seconds and 3 thirds. Some thirds were three man brackets. We took all the kids to Paola at the start of the year, and they got their butts kicked. Our coaches wanted the kids to see what open was all about. They cried like babies. Now they have gotten some confidence and learned some new stuff and are ready to go back to open. As a parent I assure you if you have any questions about any of our kids, the coaches will be more than happy to sit down and discuss it with you. Don't rush to judgment without knowing all the facts. We have two kids that are truly open kids and some other first year kids that we are moving up. If you only had 10 junior high kids in your club, how fast could you teach them. Our coaches constantly tell the kids that novice tournaments are not about winning and losing. It's about trying out some new moves that were taught that week. We as parents are very happy with the job that our coaches have done with our children. We have a girl that is coming on strong and all the boys cheer for her. We have a kid with Downs Syndrome who has never won a match, and all the kids help and cheer for him too. We have also had kids out with injuries that are just now entering their 3rd tournament. :rolleyes: