Hey-- maybe we could all be together in the 'ol horse barn (Sam Fulco pavilion) next to the under construction coliseum. The wichita classic has proven that people will put up with it, so we could just go out there and really have a quality experience!!! I doubt if you could ever get 321 out of hays city, and I think that Sailna for 4a will be the same. For whatever reason, the wishes of the 4a guys have been granted, and I doubt they'll be headed back into the cesspool without considerable resistance.