I say for state, its between Turner and Ark City. both have very good and competitive wrestlers. About Turner being a "dirty" team. I've heard rumors about things such as checking people's oil, but I talk 2 many of the Turner wreslters and coaches and I think that they just go out and wrestle as best as they can, just like any other team. I think spreading rumors and crap about a supposed "dirty' team makes it seem like you're the dirty one. Congrats to Turner on their 2nd place at Bobcat. That was a rough tournament!