bmocpapa, The way I read your original post it seemed that you were suggesting that a possible place for your Grand State proposal would be the Kansas Kids State that is held at the Kansas Expocentre each year (3/28/03 this year). Under the current rules for that event you could not achieve what you propose there because they are not allowed to wrestle out of their age groups. With the current August 31 cutoff date for determining age, most freshmen would be in 14 & under and sophomores and juniors are in 16 & under. Believe me even if you could get them to change that rule you would not want this event held there at the same time with all the younger kids' groups (8, 10, 12, & at least half of the 14 & under groups). I think it is too congested and crowded already both for the wrestlers and the spectators.

I do like the Grand State concept like a lot of other people. It would be neat to see all the top two or four finishers from this weekend's tournament face off in a final tournament. The question is what will happen first a Division I NCAA college football playoff or a new Kansas Grand State High School Wrestling Tournament?