You know so much of this is guys each of us have seen in our lives. I had completely forgotten about Richards from Oberlin and he was a great one. Another guy in that 167 range that was awfully good was Val Landis of Wellington. If you really think about it that 160 to 170 pound range is full of good ones in Kansas, like Kline of Kapaun, Walters of Sainty, the guys I already mentioned. Lots of very good wrestlers there. I guess the proof of it is that it is just **** tough to put together just one team of guys they all had there strengths and all of them were very very good. The best part is there will be many many more of them, some little booger is planning on it as we type I bet in some town somewhere right this minute.