ok what if I were to produce a tape of an incident involving somebody(past or present?)? would that cover my base?...and Meister I rarely ever attack anybody on this forum I for the most part try to promote Kansas I have great pride but get pissed when guys who have the talent( and this isn't attacking one person either) choke it off and and don't give back to the sport or to the state...you have the talent and hopefully will be able to use your on mat talents to help off the mat too...we need more guys like the Dustin Mays and Aaron Meisters of the state to be able to speak up...you guys will get tons more the attention from D1 schools in our state in trying to get programs established for the 1st time or again...you are larger voices in fighting to retain programs across the nation...I found myself writing presidents of colleges that were cancelling programs to keeep them...you have more pull you guys are "Champions of the Mat" I know the pressure of success is greater on you individuals that excelled , but the spotlight won't dim or cool down on you guys...I just wish you guys can use your superior talents on the mat to become "Champions off the Mat,' and futhermore help programs to flourish across the state and country...remember this: If you are ever in a situation to save a program and you don't you are just damaging the sport with your negligence.