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Originally posted by VS Vike coach:
Here's the dumb part; Gutwrench has tried to be positive and instructional. He tried to point stuff out that should be corrected. But rather than pay attention you guys all got defensive and insulting --- how dare he suggest that Kansas wrestling is not THE ABSOLUTE BEST IN THE WORLD???!!!!!

I'm not going to say who's right or wrong and I'm not going to start a whole other argument. But for crying out loud, have an open enough mind to actually listen in the first place and we won't get these threads that turn into elementary school arguments.

And as far as the stats at the top of the page, one question: Were they wrong? That's all I'm asking; were they wrong?
Vikes the dumb part is when gutstench started the initial thread all Kansas coaching and wrestling sucked. His position, after being confronted changed to the only good wrestlers produced in Kansas were those that had wrestled for Klemm. When the stats (many posted by gutstench himself) showed Kansas to be excelling on a national level then he moves on to the quality of teams. I don't think anyone minds objective critiques of Kansas wrestling but this guy has no clue. I don't believe from what he has said that he has ever coached in Kansas. As to his being a member of the Hall Of Fame well hey, this is the internet, aren't we all members of the Hall? This guy is likely someone from a neighboring state just trying to cause trouble.