You claim to be an NCAA Division I All American, but again no proof, like all of your claims. Did you ever think that the teams that come into KS to wrestle are some of the best? Cozad, NE for instance, they are a usual powerhouse in NE for their class, Ponderosa hm.... Nationally Ranked as is Overland Park, so see it takes the best out of state competition to come into tournaments and take home hardware from the good tournaments. Until we get some proof of your ID and we can believe it we will accept you, until then you're just another computer user that can type

That's why you were only an AA, not a Champion, I bet you ask any of the National Champs if riding is important, 75% will say yes, as evident by the 2004 finals where 7 of 10 matches had riding time scored? yes 2005 there were none, but sometimes rarities do happen......

Ride along little Bronco...right into obscurity.

gutwrench1: Why don't you just tell us who you are. Give us a reason to consider you a credible jerk. And if your trying to help our state progress towards more successful college wrestlers, why don't you do it in a nicer way. I'm sure you wouldn't like it either if we started telling other states to go to your state to win trophies. Why not post more topics like the last one you posted, people will respond better to those than they do to topics like this one.

Who cares what this fizzoool has to say. Rumor has it, his true identity is Richard Simons. Who knows?

Anuswrench1: "Obscurity" is such a big word for such a simple mind. I'm nearly impressed.

Thank you, I know I may not be correct all the time, but I'm honest upfront and known, I at least have the decency to sign my name at the bottom of my posts, and apparently am respected at least just a little which is more than I can say for you gutwrench

Alex Ryan

I got your back Alex.

Sweet, that's #2, i'm forming quite the fan club.... but are you telling me that Chenoweth doesn't wrestle right, all he does is take people down? I bet you about anything he's rode some people in his career......

That I have. I rode Brandon Wise out the entire third period (without a single stalling call I might add) to seal the 4-2 victory and I rode out Jon Cook the entire third period (also without a stalling call) to seal the victory. Wise was the defending state champion and runner up this year and Cook took 5th at state this year. Those were pretty big matches that I rode them out and won because of it.

Well you don't see many coaches speaking up in here and that is because no one really knows what goes on in their wrestling room but them. I know from being a wrestler, being a fan and being a coach that no one truely knows or understands what happens in the wrestling room.

Many many kids come through the kids program and are coached several different ways in their life. In rural Kansas it could be a different coach every couple of years and to get people or coaches to commit to a long kids wrestling career is very tough in places.

When the kid gets to Jr. High I am sure they are all told how important it is to be the one getting the take downs. I haven't been around one coach that says - stall in neutral and pin from the top (except for me and a heavy weight or two). I know from the top position you can dominate your opponent many ways in the heavier weights and being on your feet when the other guy is 40 plus pounds heavier is very tough. The level the junior high kids are it is very different for each wrestler and sometimes you find it difficult to get them all thinking alike. Sure you can get strict and lose half the wrestling tteam which starts out at only 9 kids and probably lose your wrestling program in High School which only has 4 kids right now. Or you can encourage them to get better and show them the right and wrongs in wrestling. I am guessing we spend 2/3 of our time in Jr High showing take downs and drilling but that doesn't mean we are great at it by any means and maybe the ones that come from the kids program haven't been taught take downs wins matches yet they are kids that are the best in your program- so tell me what you do- change them and lose them or let them wrestle their style that has worked for years.

I think the kids program is very key and teaching the take down at this level is where we need to start. I would love to see these people that want to help Kansas wrestling come across Kansas and put on Take Down clinics for a small fee and not the high price most camps cost. I would send all my kids to a camp that was 30 bucks and they learn take downs- matter of fact have 3 of those a year and I will try and get them each time but spending 350 is not acceptable in areas where wrestling in not the primary sport. If you really want to help Kansas wrestlign get together some great High School wrestlers and put on Clinic all over the state that everyone can afford- The High School kids would learn from teaching and they would also be giving back to the sport they got so much help in as well.

So as a coach I would say that you can preach about wanting to help Kansas wrestling or you can get out and actually help kansas wrestling which is what much wrestling coaches are trying to do. Is there a coach out there that doesn't want their wrestler to get take downs- let me know

You are in Luck. I am doing a Takedown Clinic at Olathe NorthWest on Wednesday April 13 from 6 to 8pm. The price is $15. I will go over what I call an arsenal of Takedowns which every wrestler should have. I will also be going over some hand fighting techniques and drills. That will be the first hour and fifteen minutes and then fifteen minutes on the gut and thirty minutes of live wrestling.

It will be lots of fun and you can come and watch the Erisman Kid beat the wholly you know what out of me. The boy is just getting to big and strong for this lil' bald headed old man.

Now to the point of riding vs. taken em down.
Most the time if you know you can take some one down you let em up. If it is short time you ride them. Two things come to mind:

Being in physical shape to cut people and work hard enough to take an opponent down.

The other is the confidence to cut someone and know you are going to take them back down before time runs out.

If neither one is there, you are gambling when you cut someone.

Two more things and then I'll quit.

1. What do you all think is a good ratio for a coach in teaching, drilling, and going live in the 3 positions?

Neutral 55%
Bottom 25%
Top 20%

That would be mine for drilling, for teaching you have to spend more time on top because it is so technical, lots of steps. For going live more time on your feet. You get some top/bottom when someone gets the takedown. Which leads me to the point of when going takedowns how wrestlers just quit. That is the best time to get a pinning hold on someone or the best time to work for position to get away, but it leads back to the two main things physical shape and confidence.

Last, ol Gutwrench1 has really got a bunch of people wild up. This is better then General Hospital. Thanks for the entertainment!


Coach Tom Peterman