I think you you misunderstood what I wrote, and what I said was not the wrong call, I've seen it and called it myself many many times. Neutral position is gained when the offensive wrestler has lost his established control, a 1/4 nelson and front headlock are not always indicators of control. For the same reason as if both wrestlers were neutral and one shot in and the other placed either one of these holds on him, does that mean he now has control and gets a takedown? Absolutly not, so to say that because he already had control and then came into this position especially if the defensive wrestler caused the action, means that he retains control always is false my friend. Its is very easy for someone to do a stand up with a 1/4 nelson in, and a slide by with a front headlock. There is a fine line on this judgement call and it will always be called differently from Ref to Ref. I do agree on a fairly quick stalemate, unless the O wrestler keeps going back to the same hold, then its stalling. As far as putting the O wrestler at a disadvantage by holding the call, that is unfortunatle, however it is his responsibility to work for a fall, by continually going into either of the two aforementioned positions its more likely he is just trying to maintain control, and thus presents an opportunity for the D wrestler to score an escape. Its difficult to describe the situation on a talk thread, but being right there in the action and having to make the call, its actually pretty darn easy to tell when the O wrestler has lost control.