I wasn't trying to belittle or disrespect anyone's wrestling accomplishments, in fact I think that Gilliand is a great wrestler and will be a four timer. I was simply making a point that one of the main reasons Hoxie is, and will not be ranked in the nation is due to their lack of freestlye and greco national accomplishments, which is a major criteria in the ranking process. As for the national tournament that Gilliand won in folkstyle, that is a great feat, however I don't think that the competition there is anywhere near the competion level at Fargo.(was the tournament he won for 16&under?)

As for Kreigbam, I believe he still recieved All American status in Greco Roman at Fargo.

As for the freestyle being a "parasite" to the folkstyle program, you are dead wrong. Freestyle and Greco is the international sport, we are just hurting ourselves in the long run by not wrestling that way in kids, high school, and college!

I also feel that the best of the best folkstyle kids in Kansas are great Freestyle and Greco wrestlers. (Kreigbam, Eirsman, Taplin, Zousas, Grater, Cornejo)