Westfahl, After I posted the above, I read it over and it sounded like I'm trying to be a wise guy. I'm sorry that was not my intention. I think this Madden feat may be special. I can only think of the Kellers from St. Francis and I don't know if Ed Keller was a state placer. I don't even know if they had a state tournment when he wrestled. I know Ed was a conference champ at KSU, his son Tom was a state champ. Tom had a son, I think his name is Jim. I'm sure Jim placed in the state. It's the only family I can think of a the time. I'm sorry about the post above.