ulysses #9 - if by sloppy you mean that he runs a takedown clinic on most of the people he faces. Are you confusing letting someone up with escapes? Chenoweth is an outstanding wrestler and a great person. This is his third OW this year, the one he earned at the Clearwater tournament was given by him,in front of his team, to his teammate Joey McDowell, for "busting his butt" for four years. I am sorry you were not impressed, I can tell you from experience that I one night, I tried to help him lose a few pounds to make weight, I shot 17 times, was in deep on most of them and found myself face planted. I am not a small person, 44 years old and 185 pounds. I know how to shoot (Wrestled for Columbus a century ago). At the time he weighed 145. I don't try that any more.