We can play theese tit for tat word games all day long and its meeninngless.bubowski I read your post but I wanted to let you know my son isn't 6 he is 26 and to think rules will never change is shallow thinking. I said I have a freind who has a son that is 6 and he did indeed win state in the 8&U when he was 6. I don't have to be concerned about the rules for the sake of my son so I don't really even have to live with it, but I do care about others who are not afforded the pleasure of watching their kids grow have fun and feel the excitement of going to state and wrestle kids in their own agegroup. Thats just me. Your probably right though as long as a handfull of people are getting together during the football season and votingon issues that involve the fate of many, it will probably never change. I am equally glad for the 16 yr old age group but to tell you the truth I think there is alot more intrest in the 6&U group.