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Super32 information #84802 06/26/06 06:55 AM
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Here is a link to the site for the tournament. Please note entries are limited.

http://super32challenge.ncmat.com/default.html


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Re: Super32 information #84803 07/05/06 03:26 AM
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Important update:

When: Saturday, October 28, 2006

Pre-registration only, registration will open September 12. There will be no walk-in registration! Entries will be limited to the first 1250 paid entries. If entries do not reach 1250, then registration will close at midnight on Monday, October 23. In other words - registration closes after the first 1250 paid entries or midnight on October 23, whichever comes first! Your registration is not complete until your payment is received. If you register and do not pay by October 23 or by the first 1250 paid entries, you will not be entered into the tournament.

Lots of Super 32 clothing will be available for purchase (shirts, shorts, sweats, hats, etc...)

Certified officials from NC, VA, and PA

No membership card required

Door prizes will be given away throughout the day

Entry Fee $30. You must pay when you register, either by using paypal online, or mailing a check/money order. When you register, you must declare a weight class. You will have up until midnight, Tuesday, October 24 to change your weight class with no penalty

Weigh-Ins - Friday, October 27, 6-11 pm. There will be no Saturday weigh-ins this year!

Weight Changes: You must wrestle at the weight you registered for.
You have up until midnight on Tuesday, October 24, to email the tournament directors at entry@super32challenge.ncmat.com to change your registered weight with no penalty.
If you do not make your registered weight on Friday, you have the option of bumping up a weight for an additional $40
There will be no weight changes after 11 pm on Friday.
If you do not make your registered weight and do not want to pay the weight change fee, you will not be able to wrestle and your entry fee will not be refunded.


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Re: Super32 information #84804 07/05/06 03:35 AM
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I will emphasize that Super32 has had to shut down registration each year at least 2 weeks before the tourney due to meeting entry quota.


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Re: Super32 information #84805 07/05/06 02:00 PM
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Isn't this the same tournament that was supposed to come to Kansas? What ever happened to that?

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Isn't this the same tournament that was supposed to come to Kansas? What ever happened to that?
We were trying to bring something like that here, but we had someone gripe about it not being USAW sanctioned and thus this tournament which makes a good chunk of money for both local economies and gives back to wrestling, decided that one bad apple does spoil the bunch. For the record...that person should know that Sara Koenig who is the co-director of the Super32 was USAW's NC Person of the Year a few years back and gives a lot of time and money to USA Wrestling.


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Aaron as I remember that thread there were numerous problems besides a question of sanctioning.


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Isn't this the same tournament that was supposed to come to Kansas? What ever happened to that?
Yes it is the same series tournament, and basically Aaron’s comments are right on the money. I was speaking with Dave, the director of Super 32, who I believe even responded on the topic thread it was originally posted on. Truth is I put in a lot of work, and I mean a lot of work was put into the possibility of that tournament happening, including, security of venue, reservation of officials, notification to particular chambers or commerce and much more. Then when complaints came about regarding the tournament not being USA Sanctioned in Kansas, even some questioning the use of these boards to promote it, the promoters backed out. While it wasn't the only complaint registered, I will assure you, as the one who was working on the promotion of the tournament; those few complaints scared the promoters off because of the perceived authority of those posters.

While I know this was not the intent of some of those posting, it should be understood, that this was the primary reason to my understanding for initially not doing the tournament. As I was the person primarily involved in working with the promoters, I think I can safely speak on this subject.

Will it happen in Kansas in the future? I personally doubt it, but I would like to be proven wrong. Truth is, there is more to putting on a tournament of this caliber than many realize. It is easy to talk about it getting done, but another thing all together to see to it that it gets done. I am afraid that we likely lost our chance to see it happen in the future. It is a shame because the Super 32 is now recognized as one of the top High School tournaments in the country. To think that we could have had it in Kansas is disturbing when considering it could have been.

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Aaron as I remember that thread there were numerous problems besides a question of sanctioning.
Sportsfan, don't take this the wrong way, but felt the need to respond. The problems were from those on the outside looking in. In fact, of those raising issues, of which they didn’t know what had been addressed or not in the planning of the tournament, not a single individual, and I mean not a single individual ever contacted me about what was being done, or what was getting done in regards to this tournament. In fact, not a single person raising those questions really offered to help with the planning of that tournament. Sanctioning is not, was not a problem. As you know, there are many high school and Jr. High tournaments that take place on a yearly basis that are not USA sanctioned. One of the compromises that had been worked out, of course no one knew it, was that Kansas USA wrestling was going to be allowed to promote itself at the tournament. However, many states and in fact, many Kansas High School Wrestlers are not affiliated with USA Wrestling. The truth is, the event would have allowed more Kansas High School wrestlers to participate. An example of that is that we took 149 Kansas High School Wrestlers to Brute/Adidas Nationals in Omaha last year.

Don’t get me wrong, I am a strong supporter of USA Wrestling. I am also a stronger supporter of wrestling in general, the Super 32 would have provided tremendous opportunities for some of our High School Wrestlers, and would have provided an even greater opportunity to promote USA Wrestling membership to those wrestlers. I still say, it is a shame it didn’t happen. Do I have a sour taste in my mouth from the whole event? You bet I do, I learned that Aaron’s assessment is correct, a few negative comments ruined a lot of hard work.

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What facility had been secured to handle such a large event? If I am remembering the correct thread, after a few questions were asked, it was down to using some middle school commons areas for wrestling. Also, if I'm not mistaken, this event was originally going to conflict with a USA sponsored event. I can't for the life of me figure out why USAW would need to "promote" itself in this state.


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The thought was that no more than 500 would appear at the first tournament. We thought that possibly the Derby location, would have sufficed, remember, over 800 there for their kids tournaments, and as most know, out of state teams bring very few spectators. Spread out over a Friday, weigh in's and some exhibition tournament, and all day Saturday the tournament would have been run fairly smoothly.

There was no conflict of date, with the possible exception of kids in Iowa, but again, remember this was primarily a high school tournament. There was only a 3 week span where there was no conflict, and if not mistaken, there was no conflict in state.

As to your comment regarding USA being promoted in state, I agree, but the truth is, at least I think we will agree on, we need to find a way to get many more high school wrestlers signed up with USA and take part in more USA events. The numbers are low. I know that I am hopefully going to have a number of High School kids sign up next year with the Wizzers that haven't been signed up in the past in that we now have our charter and will require USA membership to participate with the team, whether participating in USA tournaments or not.

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Did I just imagine there was a lengthy post by Sweazy that disappeared?


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Did I just imagine there was a lengthy post by Sweazy that disappeared?
I haven't posted a lengthy post on here in a long time, maybe you are imagining a lot of things. I think the whole USA Wrestling thing is kinda funny in itself as we don't even field full teams to USA sanctioned events like Junior Duals.


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Did I just imagine there was a lengthy post by Sweazy that disappeared?
I haven't posted a lengthy post on here in a long time, maybe you are imagining a lot of things. I think the whole USA Wrestling thing is kinda funny in itself as we don't even field full teams to USA sanctioned events like Junior Duals.
Yea Swayz don't even read my long winded posts, it is why we talk more on the phone.

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Did I just imagine there was a lengthy post by Sweazy that disappeared?
I haven't posted a lengthy post on here in a long time, maybe you are imagining a lot of things. I think the whole USA Wrestling thing is kinda funny in itself as we don't even field full teams to USA sanctioned events like Junior Duals.
Aaron, are you saying you didn't delete a post of yours from this thread?


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Yea that's what I'm saying.


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While I am a firm supporter of USA Wrestling, I don't think regardless of whether we have a sanctioning body or not, we would have fielded a team different than the one we did.


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Did I just imagine there was a lengthy post by Sweazy that disappeared?
I haven't posted a lengthy post on here in a long time, maybe you are imagining a lot of things. I think the whole USA Wrestling thing is kinda funny in itself as we don't even field full teams to USA sanctioned events like Junior Duals.
Aaron, are you saying you didn't delete a post of yours from this thread?
It was the forum gremlins.

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While I am a firm supporter of USA Wrestling, I don't think regardless of whether we have a sanctioning body or not, we would have fielded a team different than the one we did.
Shouldn't we have had a red flag go up sooner than a week prior to Jr. Duals though to get some guys down to OKC? Last year 112 was open and I suggested Matt Rein only to hear that they had never heard of him?! Ross Taplin had to tell coach Garcia about Matt, and by then it was too late to cut. We could have had tons of guys fill in at the weights voided, we just need more than 3 days notice.


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I've tried to make this point gently but sometimes wrestlers that want to compete on these teams need to show some interest.

The number one qualifier for these teams are the State FS/GR tourney. I know that coaches Garcia and Rieck were very visible at this tourney, trying to drum up some interest. But if for some reason a wrestler didn't compete in the State tourney he can still show his interest by competing in a couple of Freestyle/Greco tournies throughout the year!

I know that trying to get our wrestlers to commit has been a challenge. Some of the wrestlers you have mentioned have not competed in wrestling since March. Freestyle and especially Greco are unique beasts. I would suggest that if you haven't been training in these styles you probably shouldn't be making your first venture at the Jr. Duals!

I know full well, that people expressing interest is different, than actually coming through! Are there wrestlers that should be on these teams? Absolutely but I question whether they should have to begged to do so!

I have full confidence that Coaches Garcia and Rieck would like to field the best team possible for Kansas. I know they are working to find "the tons of guys!" But maybe they need a bit of help a few weeks prior instead of being second-guessed a few weeks later!


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Re: Super32 information #84821 07/10/06 01:31 AM
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I think there were plenty of people trying to help drum up guys a few weeks prior when all other states were releasing their teams line ups.

Maybe we can do like Texas does and if you make the Junior or Cadet duals team (by winning fs/greco) the state will let you wrestle in both the duals and Fargo for 1 price.


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