I agree with Jilka (and NOT with Red). Hat Town always had its fair share of four-year JV All-Stars, including guys who would have placed at state had the mat room not been so packed. It also had a couple of guys who had placed at state...and still wrestled, even though they were JV.

I think the definition of a "success" differs for small and large programs. In my opinion, 5A and 6A schools should have numbers because of the size of their student body, so success is based more on results and the overall experience. However, even if a school like KC Turner wasn't such an annual contender, the camaraderie they have speaks for their program.

However, teeny schools should go by a much different barometer--is your team of six guys beating quality 5A/6A schools in duals or tournaments? Do you qualify 80% of your kids for state? Obviously, these are successes.

In conclusion, Hat Town is the greatest program ever. But others can be successful, too.