Three timer or four timer it doesn't really matter to me if you love wrestling then watching furches or caldwell wrestle against good competition is worth the price of admission every time. I can think of alot of great wrestlers in the state that are competing right know that I hope I get a chance to see wrestle this season and alot of great fantasy matches and that's what we should be talking about, how great these kids are on and off the mat. And just remember when you post on here that alot of the kids read this stuff and even if they are teenagers thats somebody's son your talking about.