Sportsfan,

1. No I'm not looking for a punishment, just something a little more solid than just a rule of thumb. If we have such "GREAT" guidlines already set than "WHY" is there such confusion year after year. Mike Furches is a pretty knowledgable, very honest guy, he seems to think we need something a little more concrete.

2.I don't believe for one minute, for the most part, that parents or coaches are trying to find "loopholes" to keep their kids in novice. I have seen cases of it being done, but I can only think of 1 maybe 2 in the 5 years I've been around and it seemed to be more of a parent thing than a coach. If you have a coach trying to keep a kid in novice, you might want to find a different club, because that kid isn't going to get any better that way. I think the biggest problem we have are coaches/parents not knowing the "all" the guidlines that are supposedly set. If you have any literature references to that I'm sure that would be apprecitated by all.

3.I believe, from what I understand as the guidlines of a novice wrestler, that most 6 and under kids fall under the catagory of "novice". Why can't they wrestle both open and novice? What about the 8,10,12 year old kid that comes in his first year and has the guts, but not the skill level to wrestle an open? What's wrong with that kid wrestling both?

4. You tell me what club holds a tournament "not" to make money? It's not up to the tournament director to do an investigation on each entry to make sure that there isn't a advanced wrestler wrestling novice.