Point taken sports fan. I was one of those wrestlers in the packed gym for 16 hours. When I got my 8 year old in wrestling last year, my Dad chuckled & said it was my turn at the endurance test. I still stand firm that if you have two equally skilled novice wrestlers at the beginning of the season & one wrestles novice & one wrestles open, the open wrestler will be a better wrestler at the end of the season as well as more aware of his skill level. Thanks for the insight.