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4A Rankings!

Posted By: Chief Renegade

4A Rankings! - 10/30/12 02:41 PM

The pre-season KWCA 4A rankings are posted!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 11/20/12 03:22 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: KansasFisher

Re: 4A Rankings! - 11/20/12 04:06 PM

J. Pratt at 120 is a state qualifier moving up two weight classes, N. Lamb is a state qualifier moving up one weight class, wouldn't that give him the higher ranking and put him at sixth?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 11/20/12 04:41 PM

Originally Posted By: KansasFisher
J. Pratt at 120 is a state qualifier moving up two weight classes, N. Lamb is a state qualifier moving up one weight class, wouldn't that give him the higher ranking and put him at sixth?


Most certainly not.

Jon Pratt won 27 matches last year. He went 2-2 at State, losing 8-4 to state champion Goldenstein and then only 4-3 to Fargo AA Josiah Seaton. He was a Frontier League champion and placed 2nd at Regionals.

Nathan Lamb went 13-11 and 0-2 at State, losing to an 8-6 Soph Ryan Brocker.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/06/12 01:00 AM

4A rankings tomorrow! This first week of rankings have been the most challenging of all. Sorry about the delay.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/06/12 06:36 PM

4a Rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: kansaskid13

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/06/12 06:48 PM

Why were Miller and Foreman put ahead of Kester and Mainus?
Posted By: sekjrcometscoach

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/06/12 07:18 PM

Chief, just curious how teams are ranked, I know its early in the season and it don't really matter, it's just fun to look at.
I scored the teams according to individual rankings using this criteria and I came up with something different that what is posted for teams:
1st 6pts
2nd 5pts
3rd 4pts
4th 3pts
5th 2pts
6th 1pt

I came up with:
1. Colby 23pts
2. Bonner Springs 21pts
3. Andale 19pts
T4. El Dorado 17pts
T4. Chanute 17pts
6. Buhler 15pts
7. Concordia 13pts
8. Mulvane 10pts
T9. Augusta 9pts
T9. Pittsburg 9pts

Like I said I don't know what criteria is used but this is what I came up with.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/06/12 07:36 PM

The starting point of the scoring system is much closer to an actual tournament scoring. I many tournaments the winner of a bracket should score around 20-25 pounts.

I start with:

1st - 20
2nd - 14
3rd - 10
4th - 8
5th - 5
6th - 3

Then I add in non-placing wrestlers that will likely score points.

P.S. Having just added Fiscus and keeping Drybread in the rankings, Chanute moves up considerably! I know Jordan has not wrestled yet though, so I did not add his 14 points.
Posted By: kansasbuckeye

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 03:23 PM

Are the 4A rankings going to be updated soon?
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 03:49 PM

Yes, today.
Posted By: kansasbuckeye

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 03:54 PM

Thank You
Posted By: WhittakerSV

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 06:00 PM

Jarrod DeMott Pinned Yates from Buhler at 220.
Posted By: effwhyeye

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 06:26 PM

Miller beat Reishick (160) at their dual this week.

Also,I believe Dylan Eck is in 11th grade.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 06:31 PM

Originally Posted By: WhittakerSV
Jarrod DeMott Pinned Yates from Buhler at 220.


I missed that on this update. It looks like DeMott is off to a great start!
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 06:31 PM

4A Rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Tyson Schreiner

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/12/12 10:30 PM

Just curious Chief, 106# what criteria does Miller have over the upperclassmen?
Posted By: Full Nelson

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/13/12 02:08 AM

Chief. Have the 4A rankings not been posted? The link you provided shows the Dec 6th rankings. I also went to www.kansaswrestling.org and it also shows the Dec. 6 rankings.

Thanks.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/13/12 02:59 AM

Originally Posted By: Full Nelson
Chief. Have the 4A rankings not been posted? The link you provided shows the Dec 6th rankings. I also went to www.kansaswrestling.org and it also shows the Dec. 6 rankings.

Thanks.


It is showing todays date on the ranking. Refresh your page and try again.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/13/12 03:04 AM

Originally Posted By: Tyson Schreiner
Just curious Chief, 106# what criteria does Miller have over the upperclassmen?


Kester has flat out struggled to start the season. Having beaten Mainus in his state bracket, I have had him above David. What has separated Miller and Mainus is the common match with Delforge from VC at the Colby duals. Delforge has been on a tear, pinning Mainus and beating Miller 9-7 in a very close match.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 12/19/12 11:20 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Bad MaamaJamma

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/03/13 05:20 PM

Watkins from Columbus is ranked at 145 for 4A but 152 for All Class. I think he is going to stay at 152 for Regionals and State
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/03/13 05:49 PM

Yes, the All-Class rankings have been updated but the 4A rankings are not updated until next Tuesday.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/09/13 01:46 AM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: sekjrcometscoach

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/09/13 02:09 AM

It still takes me to the Dec. 19th rankings
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/09/13 02:11 AM

Originally Posted By: sekjrcometscoach
It still takes me to the Dec. 19th rankings


Refresh your browser or even restart your computer. It definitely shows 1/8.
Posted By: sekjrcometscoach

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/09/13 02:17 AM

ok thanks that worked
Posted By: Tyson Schreiner

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/13/13 12:15 AM

Due to another week of results in the 106# class, i think its time for new blood in the rankings.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/15/13 06:52 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: kansasbuckeye

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/15/13 07:14 PM

Chief, I realize that the only ranking that really matters is the
A wrestlers finish at state. However, Marc Reiss of Rock Creek High School is off to an impressive start to the season and seems to be being ignored or forgotten that his school jumped from 3a to 4a earlier this year. 17-1 start to the season with wins over 321a Hager (Norton) and 5a Bazan (Junction City) both very good and ranked wrestlers. 1st at Clay Center, 1st at Burlington, 3rd at Mission Valley. At kids club state he beat Morgan in the first or second round sorry I can't remember which.

Thank You
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/15/13 07:31 PM

Originally Posted By: kansasbuckeye
Chief, I realize that the only ranking that really matters is the
A wrestlers finish at state. However, Marc Reiss of Rock Creek High School is off to an impressive start to the season and seems to be being ignored or forgotten that his school jumped from 3a to 4a earlier this year. 17-1 start to the season with wins over 321a Hager (Norton) and 5a Bazan (Junction City) both very good and ranked wrestlers. 1st at Clay Center, 1st at Burlington, 3rd at Mission Valley. At kids club state he beat Morgan in the first or second round sorry I can't remember which.

Thank You


I guess the reason why he's been under the radar is his opening week loss to unranked Jacob Gentry from Rossville who lost to Austin Hernandez from Goodland, a .500 wrestler. Does Marc have any criteria over the ranked 4A wrestlers at 126?
Posted By: kansasbuckeye

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/15/13 07:42 PM

Unfortunately he has not faced any of them this year. He hoped to see Cole at the Marion Duals but thier teams didn't meet up. He wrestled Bryce Morgan and Dustin Reed at club state last spring. He beat Morgan but was beaten by Reed. Because of the jump to 4a this year the teams schedule was set for primarily 321a competition.
Posted By: kansasbuckeye

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/15/13 07:45 PM

The only like opponent I noticed without doing allot of research is Reed vs Hager 9-2. Reiss vs Hager 10-4
Posted By: ReDPloyd

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/15/13 10:57 PM

Hager is long and strong as I got to witness this past weekend. He appears to be a pretty solid wrestler too. I think a win against him warrants some consideration to be included on this list. Good luck the rest of the season.
Posted By: Tyson Schreiner

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/16/13 12:24 AM

I have watched Marc wrestle several times this year and last. very tough kid. super aggressive and one of those fun kids to watch. one of those kids that creates excitement and action. My son Tucker always comes and gets me when he is wrestling because we both enjoy watching him. verymuch surprised when Gentry beat him. i know most competition i have seen him wrestle, he does typically dominate. whether he can beat the ranked guys in his weight i am not sure, but i guarantee he would give it one hell uv a go.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/18/13 11:35 AM

4A ranking link...

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/22/13 03:57 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Pvctw

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/24/13 03:08 PM

Question. Eldorado has beaten Buhler head to head and in tournament, (Clearwater). How does Buhler rank above them
in the 4a rankings?
Posted By: Pvctw

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/24/13 03:22 PM

Beat them with three starters out of the line up at the tourney.
Posted By: ksuwrestling2

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/24/13 04:29 PM

The team ranks are based on how the teams are set up for state, not the regular season. There is a difference when you can't take your whole team to state.
Posted By: reddog2853

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/25/13 03:50 PM

quit whining and just wrestle. rankings do not mean anything just wrestle the opponent that you have next. you want to be the best you have to beat the best.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/25/13 03:54 PM

Originally Posted By: Pvctw
Question. Eldorado has beaten Buhler head to head and in tournament, (Clearwater). How does Buhler rank above them
in the 4a rankings?


It's a good question. The Class rankings are based on a tournament with 4A teams only. If you have individual input on 4A criteria, let me know. The team standings are based on the points arrived at from the current class ranking update.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/29/13 08:09 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: cps51

Re: 4A Rankings! - 01/29/13 08:28 PM

I agree with adding Jason Zook at 285. Not your standard freshmen. I would say he is going to be good, but I think he is already there.
Posted By: al metcalf

Re: 4A Rankings! - 02/03/13 03:02 PM

John Metcalf has beaten J Coates 9-6 at Eudora from Tong. and S. Hittle from Con. 7-1 in Rose Hill but lost to Howser from Col.5-4. Sometimes style makes a difference.
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 02/05/13 05:53 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 02/12/13 03:58 PM

4A rankings are updated!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
Posted By: Chief Renegade

Re: 4A Rankings! - 02/19/13 06:56 PM

Final Pre-State 4A Rankings!

http://www.kansaswrestling.org/images/docs/Rankings/4a.pdf
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