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Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: Beeson] #127437 04/06/08 02:06 AM
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they also have done the same thing in 5th grade 75 pounds. they have taken 7 kids and put 4 in a bracket and 3 in another. then they will wrestle 1st against the 1st from the other ,2nd against 2nd, 3rd and 3rd. In my opinion this is not an acurate way of getting to the actual champion. The two wresters that wrestled in one bracket for 1st and 2nd, the kid who got 2nd will actually be going for 3rd and 4th tomorrow. These 2 wrestlers should be meeting tomorrow in the finals.

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: schroeder] #127455 04/06/08 12:46 PM
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What a bitter sweet end to a awesome season:
We take 1st at state!
Can't work out all the next week because of fluid on the knee!
We get to Brute and he gets sick!!
We lost to a guy 5-2!
We beat another kid!
We are up 3 to 2 in in the last 8 seconds he hits a reverse and lose 4 to 3! We should of been in the finals!
We can't wrestle for 3rd and 4th againest a young man we have beat twice in the last 2 weeks because we are on the way to the hospital. I guess we will settle for a 4th!
WOW!!
What a way to end a season!!

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: BLT] #127457 04/06/08 02:41 PM
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so for those of you that know the highschool wrestlers. what grade would you give the ks wrestlers. i saw some of our big names in the finals but also saw some of them lose. what happened to ornelas. overall from what I can see I think we did a good job.


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looks like ks was very well represented in the freshmen class. lots of them in the finals and 3rd and 4th.


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Team Haysville Results
Gregory Bentley 8th
Spencer Tracy 4th (had to forefit)
Easton Schroeder 3rd
Jackson Hartley 2nd
Brycen Schroeder 1st!!
Way to Go Team Haysville

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: BLT] #127461 04/06/08 04:06 PM
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The brackets aren't updated yet...who won between Boo and Joint in Easton's bracket?


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Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: Beeson] #127462 04/06/08 04:22 PM
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I did not see the match but I was told that Joint won 9-0!!!

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: BLT] #127479 04/07/08 03:09 AM
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the bracketing was an olympic pool this is no differnt then having three or four kids on two diff sides of the bracket and the winner of each side goes into the finals. the only difference is that there are not a bunch of back side matches to get in for third. Also it is really hard to seed these little kids so this makes the champ a little more accurate in my opinion! Loved the tourney! It was alot of fun and yes dryden lost in the finals. kansas was represented well!

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: bockman] #127482 04/07/08 09:08 AM
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 Originally Posted By: bockman
so for those of you that know the highschool wrestlers. what grade would you give the ks wrestlers. i saw some of our big names in the finals but also saw some of them lose. what happened to ornelas. overall from what I can see I think we did a good job.


Great question, I think our numbers were down, but overall, for those we did, we did pretty well I think with 6 of our wrestlers winning OW awards. Kansas should be ticked off though, even at Brute where we have dominated over the last 3 years we get no respect as was indicated in the video montage where everyone was stating that Missouri and Iowa were the states to watch out for. A great tournament, great comp, and Kansas again, did great. We just need more of our HS kids to show up and wrestle. I will say this there was a 100% improvement over the last years in the organization of the tournament.

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 Originally Posted By: bockman
so for those of you that know the highschool wrestlers. what grade would you give the ks wrestlers. i saw some of our big names in the finals but also saw some of them lose. what happened to ornelas. overall from what I can see I think we did a good job.


Regarding Ornelas, it was a tough bracket.

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: Mike Furches] #127491 04/07/08 12:43 PM
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Impressive Kansas- 6 out of 12 Outstanding Wrestlers are from KS!

Outstanding Wrestlers:
First Grade: Christian Zeik (Missouri), 49 pounds
Second Grade: Jarret Jurgens (Kansas), 51 pounds
Third Grade: Zack Eck (Kansas), 60 pounds
Fourth Grade: Chase Shiltz (Iowa), 92 pounds
Fifth Grade: Tristan Starr (Kansas), 80 pounds
Sixth Grade: Tyler McBride (New Jersey), 70 pounds
Seventh Grade: Nicholas Meck (Kansas), 133 pounds
Eighth Grade: Jared McComb (Kansas), 158 pounds
Ninth Grade: Trey Adamson (Texas), 138 pounds
Tenth Grade: Angelo Malvestuto (New York), 174 pounds
Eleventh Grade: Kendric Maple (Kansas), 133 pounds
Twelfth Grade: Matthew Maresh (Nebraska), 133 pounds

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: Beeson] #127494 04/07/08 12:59 PM
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SW GRAPPLERS TO 4 KIDS TO BRUTE AND WE ENDED UP WITH 4 ALL-AMERICANS CONGRATS!!!!!

LITTLE JOE- 46LB 5TH
QUINTON LAPOINTE- 76LB 3RD
ANTHONY ALLREALLNO 85LB 1ST
MICHAL ALLRELLANO- 135 6TH

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Regarding Joint, I had an opportunity to watch him at State. He placed 3rd but exhibited outstanding abilities and is a tough young man. I was particularly impressed with his sportsmanship in the semi-finals when he was caught in a move and pinned. He got up, didn't complain or blame anyone, and came back and got 3rd. Very refreshing to see such a fine young man considering some of the other tantrums, etc. I saw.

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: Singlet] #127503 04/07/08 03:58 PM
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 Originally Posted By: Singlet
Impressive Kansas- 6 out of 12 Outstanding Wrestlers are from KS!

Outstanding Wrestlers:
First Grade: Christian Zeik (Missouri), 49 pounds
Second Grade: Jarret Jurgens (Kansas), 51 pounds
Third Grade: Zack Eck (Kansas), 60 pounds
Fourth Grade: Chase Shiltz (Iowa), 92 pounds
Fifth Grade: Tristan Starr (Kansas), 80 pounds
Sixth Grade: Tyler McBride (New Jersey), 70 pounds
Seventh Grade: Nicholas Meck (Kansas), 133 pounds
Eighth Grade: Jared McComb (Kansas), 158 pounds
Ninth Grade: Trey Adamson (Texas), 138 pounds
Tenth Grade: Angelo Malvestuto (New York), 174 pounds
Eleventh Grade: Kendric Maple (Kansas), 133 pounds
Twelfth Grade: Matthew Maresh (Nebraska), 133 pounds


Jurgens was at 61 pounds...Congratulations to all the Kansas OW's.


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Congrats to Lucas Lovvorn 5th grade 85lbs 1st Placer (Kansas)
(2nd year to take 1st at Brute!!)
and to
Drake Lovvorn 9th Grade 133lbs 5th Placer...(Kansas)
also their team mates
Tyler Hughes 6th place 9th grade 155 (Kansas)
Andrew Rieschick 1st Placer 6th grade Hwt (Kansas)
Justin Rieschick 3rd Place 4th Grade (Kansas)
Tanner Ogden 5th place 7th grade (Kansas)
Kyle White 6th place 9th grade (Kansas)
and for those just out of placing ...Justin Pool, Dennis DeVader and Jessie Gibbens ...Great Job! (Sorry ...if I left anyone out!)

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: bockman] #127511 04/07/08 07:26 PM
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Want to congratulate the Marquez brothers from Wichita Carroll Wrestling Club for both placing at BRUTE.. Tony marquez 11th grade placing 3rd at 288lb., and his brother Tommy 5th grader placing 2nd at 119lb.!!! GREAT JOB TO BOTH OF YOU!!!!

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This tournament was very well ran and a lot of fun! One of the reasons they did the "Pools" on 8 man brackets or less was so the kids are guaranteed more matches. In my opinion, I thought that this was a great idea. For example, rather than an 8 man bracket they ran 2 pools of 4. This guaranteed every kid to get at least 4 matches. They wrestled 3 on the first day and then 1 on Sunday for placing. I don't think it undermines who is in the championship. The advantage is that kids get a lot of matches as opposed to an 8 man bracket where they would only get 3 matches (3 because they placed top 8).

Want to congratulate all the kids we took from the Leavenworth County Spartans. They all competed very hard and they earned 20 All Americans.

Re: BRUTE NATIONAL [Re: Mike Furches] #127513 04/07/08 08:51 PM
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I just ran through the Kansas Juniors and they had 8 finalists out of 14 weights and 6 champs and 2 runner ups. That is a pretty good showing. I'll look at the freshman and sophmores and get back to you.

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Sophmores had 6 finalists in 14 weights = 3 - 1st, 3 - 2nds
very good.

Freshman had 10 finalists in 14 weights = 4 - 1sts, 6 - 2nds
also very good showing.

Seniors had 6 finalists in 14 weights = 1 - 1st, 5 - 2nds.

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