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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: Tony Avallone] #138026 02/04/09 11:09 AM
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Girls vs. boys

This issue has been debated at various times on our talk forums and the above link is to a discussion several years ago.


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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: RichardDSalyer] #138031 02/04/09 11:57 AM
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Wrestling is the sixth-most popular program for high school boys in terms of participants, with 257,246 boys wrestling in 9,445 schools throughout the country. It is also gaining popularity among high school girls, with 5,048 girls participating in 1,227 schools, according to the NFHS 2006-07 High School Athletics Participation Survey.

Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: RichardDSalyer] #138071 02/04/09 03:19 PM
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Aren't you the guy that was making a stink about Karissa wrestling for the Kansas team a few years ago even though she does not live in Kansas?
It seems like you are always looking for a controversy to get involved in or start.
If I am wrong I apologize, but if the shoe fits......

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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: Tony Avallone] #138075 02/04/09 03:28 PM
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Thanks for the trip down memory land Richard...it reminded me of the old days.

Yes, Tony...Richard is the one that made a stink.

Ms.Jenni

Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: CoachEd] #138077 02/04/09 03:32 PM
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I almost forgot...awesome video Tony...where did you get that? We haven't even seen that one. I will be using that. We have just been presented with an idea of getting a HS girls dual going at the USAW-KS girls state tourney in McPherson. I think we could use this video to help get the word out. Wow, isn't it ironic that what seem think will bring down our sport...has actually opened a new door for us today and guess what...once again the Edison's are stepping through it...Just to be fair it is Brooke's idea but we are gonna make it happen.

Thanks to all and if you are a HS girl wrestler (or a boy if you really want to be on the girls team) contact me and we will get you hooked up for the duals...I am getting excited.

Ms. Jenni

Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: Tony Avallone] #138082 02/04/09 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted By: Tony Avallone
Aren't you the guy that was making a stink about Karissa wrestling for the Kansas team a few years ago even though she does not live in Kansas?
It seems like you are always looking for a controversy to get involved in or start.
If I am wrong I apologize, but if the shoe fits......

The name of the tournament is USAW-KS Girls State! I don't know what stink Richard did or didn't make but I want credit for creating the name KAN-OKLAHOMA KRUSADERS!


Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: sportsfan02] #138084 02/04/09 03:53 PM
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Greg,

You definitely get credit for being a pain in the arse also.

Ms. Jenni

Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: CoachEd] #138125 02/04/09 07:55 PM
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Hey Jenni just let me know what we can do to help and Karissa says she wants a spot on 1 of the teams at say 94 or 95lbs and she says if she has to she would come to a wrestle off for the spot if she had to.


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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: Tony Avallone] #138153 02/04/09 10:03 PM
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I don't know Tony, with this being an informal dual and I know she lives in OK...so I will have to check with everyone and see if it is ok....

checked...you are in...


Ms. Jenni

Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: CoachEd] #138155 02/04/09 10:12 PM
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I knew you could make it happen because you are the BOMB!! grin


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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: CoachEd] #138169 02/05/09 12:51 AM
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It's no different than many other sports. Girls can play high school football and wrestling, but can a boy play volleyball? No. There is a reason. Boys typically have more opportunities to participate in sports. High schools everywhere now have both girls and boys basketball, soccer, and swimming. I bet they didn't start out that way. We all need to sit back, relax, and enjoy the fact that these girls are being given a chance to compete in the greatest sport that exists. They exclude boys from wrestling in these girls events? I wouldn't want to enter my son in the tournament anyway. I would enter my daughter, however. It seems pretty cut and dried to me.


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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: firehawk88] #138174 02/05/09 01:25 AM
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Great reply!!!!


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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: Tony Avallone] #138184 02/05/09 03:34 AM
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When I started this thread I really didnt think it was this big of an issue..It wasnt to see if girls wrestling was right or wrong it was if a girl choses to wrestle at a "mostly" girl tournament if a club has a right to tell her she cant..My daughter is on her 2nd year of wrestling and I witnessed and she participated in a Girl tournament in Emporia..I have to say To Coach ED COACH BROOKE COACH GONZALES AND MS. JENNI Wow those girls were awesome..To anyone who is against girls wresltling I would suggest going to a Girl tournament and just watch and then tell me they dont fight just as hard as the boys..right now my daughter gets away with wrestling the boys cause she is still young but unless there gets more tournaments for girls she is goin to have to give up the sport she loves for I do not like the idea of boys touching or smashing places that as she gets older would be awkward for them and her..At the 6 under and 8 under I dont really think kids see it as boy girl they see it as another kid..I always tell my daughter that when she is on the mat she is not a girl she is a wrestler..just like everyone else.. Just this year alone we have had a parent in Great Bend complain because she was in their sons bracket..I have had others tell there son they better not lose to no girl..and it goes on and on then there are others who love the fact that she is a girl and making a name for herself..One of the parents on our own team son wrestled a girl and he made her cry and the moms reply was good girls shouldnt wrestle anyway thats what she gets..Of course I heard that and quickly voiced my opinion and her views have now changed or at least around me..I do not see why ppl have made this about anyone being singled out all we are asking for is to get support so more girls can wrestle and so we can have a girls team and the boys can have their team..then all the religious reasons or touching reasons or personal reason can all be eliminated..if more ppl supported girls divison and did like McPherson and offer if enough entries a girls bracket then we would not be having this discussion..Lets face it no boy really wants to wrestle girls only so they can beat them and no girl really wants to only wrestle boys they are all there to WRESTLE...Its really an easy thing to solve Support girls division offer girls brackets and you will see that more girls will come out for the sport and the sport will grow giving everyone what they want Mat time and competition...To the EDISONS I dont know how you guys have fought this fight for as long as you have but I thank you for opening the doors for my daguther and other girls who love the sport of wrestling as much as the rest...


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Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: 2bentleymom] #138188 02/05/09 03:52 AM
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it's ok Cara our shoulders are broad and it doesn't upset me nearly as much as it used to...maybe we can rest this thread now for awhile...I have to get something done besides reading the forum...lol

ms. jenni

Re: Girls Wrestling is this fair? [Re: CoachEd] #138191 02/05/09 04:32 AM
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Agreed, Ms. Jenni.

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