Old School Rankings
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Who ranks all time? Only criteria is it has to be the weight they competed in their senior year.
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I'll start it off with Mark Hewitt, 132lb, Beloit..
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125lbs Zach Roberson, Blue Valley NW
Will Cokeley (708)267-6615 willcokeley@gmail.com
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05/02/09 08:18 PM
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I think all the 4-timers should be on that list!
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05/02/09 08:27 PM
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The Kansas 4-timers are:
KANSAS 4-TIME STATE CHAMPIONS
#1 - Doug Duell, Goodland (5 titles) 1972 - 3A - 98 lbs. 1973 - 3A - 105 lbs. 1974 - 3A - 119 lbs. 1975 - 3A - 119 lbs. 1975 - Grand State - 119 lbs.
#2 - Roy Oeser, Wichita-Kapuan Mt. Carmel (5 titles) 1974 - 3A - 155 lbs. 1975 - 3A - 155 lbs. 1976 - 3A - 167 lbs. 1976 - Grand State - 167 lbs. 1977 - 3A - 167 lbs.
#3 - Matt Treaster, Beloit 1981 - 321A - 105 lbs. 1982 - 321A - 119 lbs. 1983 - 321A - 126 lbs. 1984 - 4A - 132 lbs.
#4 - Todd Layton, Independence 1984 - 5A - 119 lbs. 1985 - 5A - 132 lbs. 1986 - 5A - 138 lbs. 1987 - 5A - 145 lbs.
#5 - Todd Drake, Andover 1985 - 4A - 98 lbs. 1986 - 4A - 112 lbs. 1987 - 4A - 126 lbs. 1988 - 4A - 132 lbs.
#6 - Justin Ware, Arkansas City 1989 - 5A - 103 lbs. 1990 - 5A - 119 lbs. 1991 - 5A - 130 lbs. 1992 - 5A - 140 lbs.
#7 - Devin Bahm, Arkansas City 1993 - 5A - 125 lbs. 1994 - 5A - 125 lbs. 1995 - 5A - 126 lbs. 1996 - 5A - 130 lbs.
#8 - Bill Gabel, St. Francis 1993 - 321A - 103 lbs. 1994 - 321A - 112 lbs. 1995 - 321A - 119 lbs. 1996 - 321A - 135 lbs.
#9 - Bo Maynes, Salina South 1995 - 5A - 100 lbs. 1996 - 5A - 112 lbs. 1997 - 5A - 119 lbs. 1998 - 5A - 125 lbs.
#10 - Zach Roberson, Blue Valley Northwest 1996 - 6A - 103 lbs. 1997 - 6A - 112 lbs. 1998 - 6A - 119 lbs. 1999 - 6A - 125 lbs.
#11 - Jeremy Long, Santa Fe Trail 1997 - 4A - 119 lbs. 1998 - 4A - 119 lbs. 1999 - 4A - 130 lbs. 2000 - 4A - 130 lbs.
#12 - Dusty Spaulding, Emporia 1997 - 6A - 119 lbs. 1998 - 6A - 125 lbs. 1999 - 6A - 130 lbs. 2000 - 6A - 135 lbs.
#13 - Travis Stites, McPherson 1997 - 5A - 130 lbs. 1998 - 5A - 135 lbs. 1999 - 5A - 140 lbs. 2000 - 5A - 145 lbs.
#14 - Dustin May, Derby 1998 - 6A - 103 lbs. 1999 - 6A - 119 lbs. 2000 - 6A - 130 lbs. 2001 - 6A - 135 lbs.
#15 - Doug Hoover, Wichita-Kapaun Mt. Carmel 1999 - 5A - 103 lbs. 2000 - 5A - 112 lbs. 2001 - 5A - 119 lbs. 2002 - 5A - 125 lbs.
#16 - Mat Gilliland, Hoxie 2001 - 321A - 119 lbs. 2002 - 321A - 125 lbs. 2003 - 321A - 130 lbs. 2004 - 321A - 140 lbs.
#17 - Jake Kriegbaum, Abilene 2001 - 4A - 103 lbs. 2002 - 4A - 103 lbs. 2003 - 4A - 119 lbs. 2004 - 4A - 130 lbs.
#18 - Josh Baldridge, Haysville-Campus 2002 - 6A - 112 lbs. 2003 - 5A - 125 lbs. 2004 - 5A - 130 lbs. 2005 - 5A - 130 lbs.
#19 - Clay Madden, Norton 2003 - 321A - 103 lbs. 2004 - 321A - 112 lbs. 2005 - 321A - 112 lbs. 2006 - 321A - 119 lbs.
#20 - Tristen Deshazer, Wichita West 2003 - 6A - 103 lbs. 2004 - 5A - 112 lbs. 2005 - 5A - 119 lbs. 2006 - 5A - 130 lbs.
#21 – Trison Graham, Ark City 2005 – 5A – 112 lbs. 2006 – 5A – 119 lbs. 2007 – 5A – 125 lbs. 2008 – 5A – 130 lbs.
#22 – Romero Cotton, Hutchinson 2005 – 6A – 145 lbs. 2006 – 6A – 160 lbs. 2007 – 5A – 171 lbs. 2008 – 5A – 189 lbs.
#23 – Tyler Caldwell, Goddard 2006 - 6A – 112 lbs. 2007 - 6A – 125 lbs. 2008 - 6A – 140 lbs. 2009 - 6A – 160 lbs.
#24 – Boaz Beard, Goddard 2006 - 6A – 152 lbs. 2007 - 6A – 160 lbs. 2008 - 6A - 141 lbs. 2009 - 6A - 189 lbs.
... and that list leaves out some notable Kansans! Eric Akin, Ross Taplin, Cody Garcia, Melvin Douglas, Kirk Baker, Boyle from Norton, the lighter weight from Immac!
There are so, so many!!
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05/02/09 09:36 PM
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It doesn't seem right to leave out any of those National SR champs... Napier, Coleman, etc...
Justin Dyer -- didn't he win like three titles and at the heavier weights? 189, 215? That dude dominated.
D. Dean Welsh, Junction City ***Dean plays well with others!!! ;-)
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05/03/09 09:16 PM
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... and Cornejo, Rechtfertig, Temoer Terry ...
I guess we need a definition of "Old School!"
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05/04/09 01:25 AM
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Here is a preliminary All-Kansas All-Time Team. I tried to go as old school as I could including one wrestler from the Great Depression. These are some of the best wrestlers Kansas has offered up and I'm sure I can add more. These were just the top guys who I know should be on the roster based on performance. I also moved some guys around in weight because they didn’t have that weight class when they were seniors or because they had wrestled there previously. Have fun dissecting it:
103 Doug Duell-Goodland-1975 (5x State Champion)
112 Eric Akin-Bishop Miege High School-1989 (3x State Champion, 4x NCAA All-American, US World Team member)
125 Zach Roberson-Blue Valley Northwest-1999 (4x State Champion, NCAA Champion)
130 Myron Roderick-Winfield-1952 (2x State Champion, 3x NCAA Champion, Olympian, Head Coach at Oklahoma State winning 7 team championships)
160 Roy Oeser-Kapuan Mount Carmel-1977 (5x State Champion, Head Coach of Maize)
171 Melvin Douglass-Topeka Highland Park-1981 (3x State Champion, 2x NCAA Champion, 2x Olympian)
215 Pete Mehringer-Kinsley-1930 (2x State Champion, University of Kansas Wrestler and Football player, NCAA Runner-up, Olympic Champion, Pro Football Player)
Heavyweight Jeff Boyle-Norton-1997 (3x State Champion, #1 275 in Nation in 1997, Wrestled in the Dapper Dan Classic, and NFL Football Player)
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I would throw in the Colby boys of Matt Murray and Eric Luedke
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I would have to put Bo Maynes at 125, 130-0 and never taken down!! I would love to have seen Bo and Zach go at it. They are two of the very best from the great state Kansas!!
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Yeah, big props to Bo. Roberson was a Junior Nationals (Fargo) and DI champ.
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Alright, here is the revise from the beginning. I tried to include as many wrestlers from as far back as I could. It is pretty hard to keep up on the performance of wrestlers prior to the mid-1990s. This would be one tough team to matchup with, but states like Iowa and Oklahoma could match it thanks to having 2 major DI programs for their top wrestlers to attend. Just an added note one wrestler actually wrestled at the University of Kansas while 7 of the wrestlers attended Iowa and Oklahoma institutions.
103 Doug Duell-Goodland-1975 (5x State Champion)
112 Eric Akin-Bishop Miege High School-1989 (3x State Champion, 4x NCAA All-American, US Freestyle World Team member)
119 Tanner Gardner-Shawnee Heights-2003 (2x State Champion, 3x NCAA All-American, Greco-Roman Junior National Champion)
125 Zach Roberson-Blue Valley Northwest-1999 (4x State Champion, Undefeated in High School, NCAA Champion, 2008 Olympic Freestyle Trials Participant)
130 Shawn Bunch-Leavenworth-2002 (2x State Champion, 2nd and 3rd Place NCAA Finishes, 2008 Olympic Freestyle Trials Participant)
135 Myron Roderick-Winfield-1952 (2x State Champion, 3x NCAA Champion, Olympian, Head Coach at Oklahoma State winning 7 team championships)
140 Matt Murray-Colby-2000 (2x State Champion, NCAA Runner-up)
145 Eric Luedke-Colby-2003 (1x State Champion, 2x NJCAA National Champion, 3rd and 8th Place NCAA Finishes, 2008 Olympic Freestyle Trials Participant)
152 Joe Johnston-Shawnee Mission East-2001 (2x State Champion, NCAA Runner-up and 6th place)
160 Roy Oeser-Kapuan Mount Carmel-1977 (5x State Champion, Head Coach of Maize)
171 Melvin Douglass-Topeka Highland Park-1981 (3x State Champion, 2x NCAA Champion, 2x Olympian)
189 Scott Coleman-Manhattan-1998 (3x State Champion, High School National Champion, 2x NCAA All-American)
215 Pete Mehringer-Kinsley-1930 (2x State Champion, University of Kansas Wrestler and Football player, NCAA Runner-up, Olympic Champion, Pro Football Player)
Heavyweight Jeff Boyle-Norton-1997 (3x State Champion, #1 275 in Nation in 1997, and NFL Football Player)
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05/06/09 06:31 PM
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Definitely a great list, but not exactly all "old school". An old school team should include State Champion and National Greco Champion Joe Seay of Wellington. Seay is also the only coach in history to win titles in NCAA DII and DI and was an Olympic Coach. The list should also include 3x state champion David Ray of Goddard/Carroll. Ray was a freestyle and greco champ and a 2x NCAA DI AA. Also was a highly decorated college coach. They would both be on my all-time list, "old school" or not.
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David Ray was a bad dude!!!!!
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David Ray was a bad dude!!!!! That he was!
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Good list Ricky!
Okay, I've been beating myself up for days. Who was the lighter weight guy, from Immac I think, who was also one bad dude!
He wrestled some in college and was active in the freestyle scene for a while!
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Thanks Mike ... that's the guy!!
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