Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:12 PM
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19 weight classes??? Maybe if we only had 2 divisions!
Brackets are a lot smaller at Cadet and Junior Nationals when they went from 10 weights to 14..
Lets keep it more competitive!!
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:14 PM
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So why can't we have a weight distribution like this for high school?
NFHS and to many open weights in duals I guess. 100-120 leave the same (every 5 to 6 pounds). At about 120 - 148 they should go 6 or 7 pound increases from 148 - 187 7 - 10 pound increases Then 198, 215, 245, & HWT.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:21 PM
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iwalks
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19 weight classes would be alright if it was all the 1-6A combined.
Lansing High School Kevin Keller
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:21 PM
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16 weight classes - any thoughts?
100, 105, 112, 119, 126, 133, 140, 147, 155, 165, 175, 185, 198, 215, 245, HWT
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:35 PM
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DSpaulding
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If you really want guys to get better, then make it tougher for them! Make less weight classes!
Why would we make wrestling less competitive??
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:45 PM
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In my opinion too many. I would personally like to see some weight classes dropped. Take it back to 12 or 13. College only has 10.
103, 112, 119, 126, 133, 141, 148, 157, 165, 177, 190, 215, HWT
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:49 PM
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smokeycabin
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I was nibbling down the 19 weights to 16 for the kids series. I intially thought the HS division was going to be High school weights - kind of a Grand State.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:50 PM
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In my opinion too many. I would personally like to see some weight classes dropped. Take it back to 12 or 13. College only has 10.
103, 112, 119, 126, 133, 141, 148, 157, 165, 177, 190, 215, HWT Off-task but wondering who has the record for the most kids folkstyle state titles?
D. Dean Welsh, Junction City ***Dean plays well with others!!! ;-)
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:52 PM
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Beeson
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Bo Maynes, I believe he has 11. Justin Ware had 9.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 08:53 PM
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Dean Welsh
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Wow. Very cool. Thanks Beeson.
D. Dean Welsh, Junction City ***Dean plays well with others!!! ;-)
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 09:01 PM
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I believe Jesse Strawn had 12. Amazingly he won it every year he was eligible since he was 4.
That would be the most if you just count kids titles. Others have more if your count all HS, Kids, Freestyle, and Greco. Somebody like Sharky Slyter would probably have the most then.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 09:01 PM
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I have a feeling we are going to have some high school heavyweights not make weight.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 09:47 PM
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Why cut out weight classes. Is not logical or make sense!! So college has only 10 weights. They cut out 103, 112, 119, and 215. Probably can't find a college wrestler to fill a slot below 119 unles you go to a DWARF class. No way to expect a HS HVY WT class from 198 to 285 to be competitive. That would not be wrestling, just a bunch of blobs laying on much smaller kids.
I would think the more weights the more kids the better competition. Keep about what we have, with a few poundage adjustments here and there, and add something between 215 and 285.
This is not rocket science. Forget back in the day!!
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 10:30 PM
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With my proposed weights, take out 103, 112, and 119 we would have 10 weights, just like college.
Lets make it competitive again and quit watering it down.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 10:36 PM
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Daniel Deshazer has 10 kids titles.Zac Gentzler has 9.
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Re: 2010 Kansas Kids State Folkstyle Championships
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03/03/10 11:15 PM
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I say adopt Kansas high school and middle school weights and be done with it.
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