Here's a spinoff topic...didn't want to hijack HLTW's thread. One of our coaches the other day brought up an interesting question. We were discussing how difficult it is to repeat as a champ in the middle to upper weights. Has there ever been a Kansas 4 timer that wrestled at or above 135 as a freshman? In the other thread most of the names I recognized started as smaller guys.

Know for sure that Boaz Beard won at 152 his frshman year. Let me find a list and check some more...

ok found it...maybe romero cotton as well. I think he started at 145? all the others I know of for sure started under 135, but some of the ones i don't know of might have been heavier.

yeah i think cotton went 145, 160, 171, 189.

Good work, Brett. You're a quick one.

Boaz Beard was the next wrestler to do this after Romero Cotton. Beard won at 152, 160, 171, and 189. Even more impressive is that Boaz was 40-0 as a freshman.

I think Roy Oeser falls in this category.????????

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KANSAS 4-TIME STATE CHAMPIONS

#1 - Doug Duell, Goodland (5 titles)
1972 - 3A - 98 lbs.
1973 - 3A - 105 lbs.
1974 - 3A - 119 lbs.
1975 - 3A - 119 lbs.
1975 - Grand State - 119 lbs.

#2 - Roy Oeser, Wichita-Kapuan Mt. Carmel (5 titles)
1974 - 3A - 155 lbs.
1975 - 3A - 155 lbs.
1976 - 3A - 167 lbs.
1976 - Grand State - 167 lbs.
1977 - 3A - 167 lbs.

#3 - Matt Treaster, Beloit
1981 - 321A - 105 lbs.
1982 - 321A - 119 lbs.
1983 - 321A - 126 lbs.
1984 - 4A - 132 lbs.

#4 - Todd Layton, Independence
1984 - 5A - 119 lbs.
1985 - 5A - 132 lbs.
1986 - 5A - 138 lbs.
1987 - 5A - 145 lbs.

#5 - Todd Drake, Andover
1985 - 4A - 98 lbs.
1986 - 4A - 112 lbs.
1987 - 4A - 126 lbs.
1988 - 4A - 132 lbs.

#6 - Justin Ware, Arkansas City
1989 - 5A - 103 lbs.
1990 - 5A - 119 lbs.
1991 - 5A - 130 lbs.
1992 - 5A - 140 lbs.

#7 - Devin Bahm, Arkansas City
1993 - 5A - 125 lbs.
1994 - 5A - 125 lbs.
1995 - 5A - 126 lbs.
1996 - 5A - 130 lbs.

#8 - Bill Gabel, St. Francis
1993 - 321A - 103 lbs.
1994 - 321A - 112 lbs.
1995 - 321A - 119 lbs.
1996 - 321A - 135 lbs.

#9 - Bo Maynes, Salina South
1995 - 5A - 100 lbs.
1996 - 5A - 112 lbs.
1997 - 5A - 119 lbs.
1998 - 5A - 125 lbs.

#10 - Zach Roberson, Blue Valley Northwest
1996 - 6A - 103 lbs.
1997 - 6A - 112 lbs.
1998 - 6A - 119 lbs.
1999 - 6A - 125 lbs.

#11 - Jeremy Long, Santa Fe Trail
1997 - 4A - 119 lbs.
1998 - 4A - 119 lbs.
1999 - 4A - 130 lbs.
2000 - 4A - 130 lbs.

#12 - Dusty Spaulding, Emporia
1997 - 6A - 119 lbs.
1998 - 6A - 125 lbs.
1999 - 6A - 130 lbs.
2000 - 6A - 135 lbs.

#13 - Travis Stites, McPherson
1997 - 5A - 130 lbs.
1998 - 5A - 135 lbs.
1999 - 5A - 140 lbs.
2000 - 5A - 145 lbs.

#14 - Dustin May, Derby
1998 - 6A - 103 lbs.
1999 - 6A - 119 lbs.
2000 - 6A - 130 lbs.
2001 - 6A - 135 lbs.

#15 - Doug Hoover, Wichita-Kapaun Mt. Carmel
1999 - 5A - 103 lbs.
2000 - 5A - 112 lbs.
2001 - 5A - 119 lbs.
2002 - 5A - 125 lbs.

#16 - Mat Gilliland, Hoxie
2001 - 321A - 119 lbs.
2002 - 321A - 125 lbs.
2003 - 321A - 130 lbs.
2004 - 321A - 140 lbs.

#17 - Jake Kriegbaum, Abilene
2001 - 4A - 103 lbs.
2002 - 4A - 103 lbs.
2003 - 4A - 119 lbs.
2004 - 4A - 130 lbs.

#18 - Josh Baldridge, Haysville-Campus
2002 - 6A - 112 lbs.
2003 - 5A - 125 lbs.
2004 - 5A - 130 lbs.
2005 - 5A - 130 lbs.

#19 - Clay Madden, Norton
2003 - 321A - 103 lbs.
2004 - 321A - 112 lbs.
2005 - 321A - 112 lbs.
2006 - 321A - 119 lbs.

#20 - Tristen Deshazer, Wichita West
2003 - 6A - 103 lbs.
2004 - 5A - 112 lbs.
2005 - 5A - 119 lbs.
2006 - 5A - 130 lbs.

#21 – Trison Graham, Ark City
2005 – 5A – 112 lbs.
2006 – 5A – 119 lbs.
2007 – 5A – 125 lbs.
2008 – 5A – 130 lbs.

#22 – Romero Cotton, Hutchinson
2005 – 6A – 145 lbs.
2006 – 6A – 160 lbs.
2007 – 5A – 171 lbs.
2008 – 5A – 189 lbs.

#23 - Boaz Beard, Goddard
2006 - 6A - 153 lbs.
2007 - 6A - 160 lbs
2008 - 6A - 171 lbs.
2009 - 6A - 189 lbs.

#24 - Tyler Caldwell, Goddard
2006 - 6A - 112 lbs.
2007 - 6A - 125 lbs.
2008 - 6A - 140 lbs.
2009 - 6A - 160 lbs.

#25 - Colt Rogers, Smith Center
2007
2008
2009 - 321A - 130 lbs.
2010 - 321A - 130 lbs.


Technically Roy and Doug Duell were FIVE time state champs!

Someone will have to confirm the New Mexico state championships so I can add them to Goddard's dynamic duos stats.

Fun fact...

Only two of these wrestlers went on to become NCAA Division 1 All Americans. Name them...

I believe Goddard only wrestled 321A opponents up until regionals that year. JK! That is REALLY impressive. What weights did Caldwell wrestle? I believe he might have made the biggest jump from Freshman to Senior year of any of the 4xers.

zach roberson and bo maynes

no i think Bo was a big twelve champ but i do not think he ever placed.
I would guess Gable but sure on the other

yeah after some research you are right it's not bo. not sure who it is...

Beloit's and the US Naval Acedemy's Matt Treaster.

and the other?

Zach Roberson. He was a three time AA including his National Championship year.

Ha, did Will just make a funny? I've never pledged a clear allegiance to any classification. As I remember I detailed two classifications' matches to watch on the front side of the state tournament. I do sympathize with 321Aers because it is very much an us against the world mentality it seems to me.

I like to envision that these predominately "farm boys" are out training Rocky IV montage style. You know like 321A people are Rocky (western heritage and ideologies like democracy ,freedom, folksiness, wholesome, blue jeans, flannel) and everyone else is Ivan Drago (eastern beliefs like Marxism, socialism, communism, hi-tech training and nutrient regiments, smoking hot girlfriends who later fall in love with Flava Flav). I'd like to think those 321A boys are out chucking bales, throwing down calves, chasing chickens in a pen, smashing rocks, squat thrusting a buggy filled with their coaching staff, and running up hills (may they be Gypsum, Blue, Red, Chautauqua, Flint, or Smoky) shouting out at the top of their lungs "Cokeley".

Goddard I believe attended the Bobcat Classic and Rocky Welton Tournaments that season so he could have met up with a few 321A foes, I'm not sure of that many quality 321A opponents he ever met. At Bobcat, Boaz might have met up with Jason Corwin of Second Lagoon (Silver Lake for forum noobs). Corwin was a pretty salty wrestler who took 3rd twice and was a state runner-up his senior year.

As for Tyler Caldwell making a huge jump which he did when looking at freshman to senior seasons, but it was at pretty even intervals overall. He wrestled 112, 125, 140, and 160.

I would like to note that year Boaz and Tyler spent in Rio Rancho really helped them prepare competitively for their success in Kansas and now at the collegiate level. Having to bang heads with the Ortegas and I believe some of the Adamsons of Bishop Lynch, TX were their too, has got to give you an edge. Didn't they win state titles in New Mexico as 8th graders? So in reality they are 4X Kansas state champions and 1X New Mexico state champions, 5 state titles in all.

That would be impressive. Too bad Paul Harvey is dead or we could get "the rest of the story".

Yeah now we have to listen to the gosh darn Huckabee Report on AM 1070 the Ranch.

Long was 112 his first year winning it.