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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Holliday Hays] #176687 12/15/10 04:30 AM
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Originally Posted By: Holliday Hays
I think Hoxie should be the clear cut #2 ranked team. Calvin Ochs (state runner-up) and Donovan Schamberger aren't ranked, but have state experience and probably should be. Combine that with sophomores like Brandon Salmans and Steven Yergy...Hoxie just has much more depth than Rossville and Eureka.


Eureka should probably not be ranked as high with their ranked 215 pounder not participating this season.

I think you are right in making the assumption that Hoxie will have more possible state placers on its team than Rossville. However, Hoxie has to wrestle in a more difficult regional than Rossville. This will leave a few of their wrestlers in the stands instead of on the mats in Gross Memorial.

In addition Rossville looks like they have a group of middleweights that could all tear through their brackets at state. This will give Rossville many bonus points with state finalist compared to the consolation placements Hoxie looks to get.

I would compare this team of Rossville wrestlers to Smith Center's team last year. Smith Center only had four state qualifiers but they still managed to take second because they had three state finalist and another wrestler come through the backdoor.

Maybe this Hoxie team will surprise me and can score a ton of backside bonus points like the 2004 Scott City team that won state.

The season is young, we will really see what these teams are made of come late January and February.


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Coach Brown] #176701 12/15/10 01:51 PM
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Why did Caney drop from #3 to not being in the top 10? Especially since Fredonia is now #5 and Caney defeated them in a dual 58-28.

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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: kshawk] #176703 12/15/10 02:20 PM
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I am adjusting the rankings today before the xmas break and then I am not going to look at them again until 2011. I have updated some things and have taken out a few wrestlers that are not competing. As far as a team defeating another in a dual and that team placing high in a tourney..it happens! We beat Auburn 45-30 and won 9 out of 11 matches in the dual only to get 2nd to them at our own tourney by 9 points. It is a fact of wrestling that you can be a good dual team and not a good tourney team, but I will look at it.
And as far as the above comment...Rossville is TOUGH!


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Coach Brown] #176707 12/15/10 03:09 PM
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1. Norton
2. Rossville
3. Hoxie
4. Central Burden
5. Caney Valley
6. Burlington
7. Eureka
8. Wellsville
9. Beloit
10. Goodland
Individual Rankings .
103
1. Colt Skillman-Burlington-12
2. Josh Geopfert-Marysville-10
3. Trey Francka-ChaseCo.-10
4. Kordell Burch-Douglas-11
5. Kegan Amos-Holcomb-10
6. Elvis Duran-Larned-11

112
1.John Risewick-Norton-10
2. Hunter Speer-Hoton-11
3. Ross Harris-Stafford-12
4. Dakota Shay-Fredonia-10
5. Drew Jones-Hoxie-11
6. Trevor Axelson-Plainville-10

119
1.Dylan Schumacher-TMP-11
2. Clay Mulligan-Scott City11
3. Dustin Vap-Rawlins Co. 12
4. Steven Howard-Eureka-12
5. Braden Sahlfield-Beloit-12
6. Kasey Biddle-Central Burden-10

125
1. Zach Hoehn-Wellsville-12
2. Brogan Humprey-Fredonia-9
3. Calvin Ochs-Hoxie-10
4. Cole Werner-Plainville-12
5. Michael VanderLinden-Burlington-12
6. Time Wright-Eureka-12

130
1. Troy Bainter-Norton-12
2. Riley Soward-Halstead-10
3. Seth Miller-Goodland-12
4. Mason Hurla-St. Marys-11
5. Adrian Lange-Lyons-10
6. Brody Carroll-Marion-10

135
1. Dalton Davis-Lakin-12
2. Brett Terrell-Norton-12
3. Tagen Lambotte-Rossville-9
4. Austin Lopez-Ellis-11
5. Chase Mayfield-Eureka-11
6. Eddie Creek-Marsyville-11

140
1. Keifer Hurla-Rossville-12
2. Kale Newell-Smith Center-12
3. Billy Broeckelman-Norton-12
4. Alex Thaibault-Halstead-10
5. Riley Hunsicker-Ellis-11
6. Kyle Rice-Horton-12

145
1. Ky Biddle-Central Burden-11
2. Sheldon Graves-Rossville-12
3. Dalton Snyder-Hoxie-11
4. Nathan Deeds-Goodland-12
5. Michael Forbes-ACCHS-12
6. Hunter Stalford-Caney Valley-12

152
1. Tyler McMichael-Central Burden-11
2. Mark Smith-Rossville-12
3. Thomas Rachow-Phillipsburg-12
4. Dylan Bainter-Hoxie-12
5. Eric Albers-Oakley-11
6. Colten Johnson-Marion-11

160
1. Landon Keisewetter-Norton-12
2. Braden Mayes-Beloit-12
3. Collin Wittig-Leoti-12
4. Nathan Beeker-Garden Plain-12
5. Derek Tyler-St. Marys-12
6. Sam Watt-Caney Valley-10

171
1. Spencer Shirk-Norton-12
2. Zack Eaton-Smith Center-12
3. Riley Denny-Caney Valley-10
4. Jesse LaMay-Wellsville-11
5. Clay Cosand-Beloit-10
6. Eric Hellerud-Hosington-11

189
1. Tate Omli-El-Saline-12
2. Tyler Loew-Eureka-11
3. Colt Castlebury-Douglas-11
4. Thomas Durham-Fredonia-12
5. Jesse Campbell-Wellsville-12
6. Lain Herl-Goodland-11

215
1. Luke Hayes-Scott City-11
2. John Siaie-Chaparral-12
3. Dustin Bayless-Caney Valley-12
4. Tanner Taylor-Burlington-11
5. Adam Guthmiller-St. Francis-12
6. Jacob English-Beloit-10

285
1. Dillon Salmans-Hoxie-12
2. Clay Wilcox-Chaparral-10
3. Dakota Denny-Caney Valley-12
4. Josh Martinez-Marysville-12
5. Dylon Voorhies-Fredonia-12
6. David Green-Central High-12


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Coach Brown] #176717 12/15/10 05:10 PM
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Dear Coach Brown,

Just to let you know Calvin Ochs of Hoxie finished below Cole Werner of Plainville and Trevor Kennedy of Lakin at the Hoxie tourney in the 125 bracket.

Here is the link Hoxie Tourney

I realize Ochs was a state runner-up at 112, but he likely lost to Kennedy in the semifinals at Hoxie. Kennedy was a state qualifier last year that made it to the blood round at 119. Werner was also a state runner-up and that was at a 119.

Ochs is a good wrestler, however he does not deserve to be ranked ahead of two wrestlers he finished behind in a tournament "this" season. If I were doing the rankings I'd put him at the 6th place spot because Michael Vander Linden of Burlington has not had a loss and he placed 4th at 119 last season. However, Vander Linden did wrestle in a quad dual last night where he could have wrestled Humphrey of Fredonia and Wright of Eureka. Nevertheless, Ochs should not be ahead of Kennedy or Werner.

I've got another spot I disagree with you. At 112s Axelson of Plainville was pinned by Wessling of Beloit in a dual at the beginning of the season.

Here is the link Beloit v. Plainville

I've also got another weight to pick on at 215s Luke Hayes of Scott City lost by fall to Adam Guthmiller of St. Francis at the Colby Duals.

Here is the link Colby Duals' Pools


Cordially yours,
Ricky Bobby

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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Ricky Bobby] #176719 12/15/10 05:26 PM
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Thank you sir..I appreciate the info...Brown


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Coach Brown] #176726 12/15/10 07:21 PM
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I hear that the loss by Hayes was due to a football injury and that he was unable to continue? Any word on if or when he will be back?
Coach brown


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Coach Brown] #176732 12/15/10 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted By: Coach Brown
I hear that the loss by Hayes was due to a football injury and that he was unable to continue? Any word on if or when he will be back?
Coach brown


On the results it appears to read "WDF" which would likely be an injury default.

However, Hayes continued to wrestle at the tournament. The Guthmiller v. Hayes match happened after 5 PM on Friday. Then Hayes wrestled in a dual after 8 PM against Goodland pinning O'Harah. The next day he wrestled in a dual against Oberlin pinning Fortin.

So he may have forfeited one match due to injury but he continued to wrestle throughout the weekend.


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Ricky Bobby] #176739 12/16/10 12:57 AM
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Thanks once again Ricky..Shake and Bake
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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Coach Brown] #176742 12/16/10 02:41 AM
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I know Kaid McKenna from Norton suffered an injury in football. Any word if/when he'll be back?

Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Holliday Hays] #176748 12/16/10 06:32 AM
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Why was Brock Long from Southeast Saline dropped from number 3 in 171 to not even ranked? He beat cosand from beloit last thursday.

Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Holliday Hays] #177070 12/21/10 04:34 AM
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I heard McKenna opted to have surgery and won't be back...but don't take my word

Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: wrestling_4_life] #177230 12/24/10 04:48 AM
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Top 10 Teams
1. Norton
2. Rossville
3. Hoxie
4. Smith Center
5. Central-Burden
6. Caney Valley
7. Eureka
8. Burlington
9. Scott City
10. Wellsville


103:
1. Colt Skillman - 12 - Burlington
2. Josh Goepfert - 10 - Marysville
3. Trey Francka - 10 - Chase County
4. Keegan Amos - 10 - Holcomb
5. Clint Rogers - 9 - Smith Center
6. Lane Hoffman - 9 - St. Francis

112:
1. Clay Mulligan - 11 - Scott City
2. John Risewick - 10 - Norton
3. Hunter Speer - 11 - Horton
4. Ross Harris - 12 - Stafford
5. Drew Jones - 11 - Hoxie
6. Dayton Dreher - 9 - Oberlin

119:
1. Dylan Schumacher - 11 - TMP
2. Dustin Vap - 12 - Atwood-Rawlins County
3. Steven Howard - 12 - Eureka
4. Branden Sahlfield - 12 - Beloit
5. Nate Hudson - 12 - Caney Valley
6. Kasey Biddle - 10 - Central-Burden

125:
1. Zach Hoehn - 12 - Wellsville
2. Brogan Humphrey - 9 - Fredonia
3. Cole Werner - 12 - Plainville
4. Michael Vander Linden - 12 - Burlington
5. Trevor Kenedy - 10 - Lakin
6. Calvin Ochs - 11 - Hoxie

130:
1. Troy Bainter - 12 - Norton
2. Riley Soward - 11 - Halstead
3. Seth Miller - 12 - Goodland
4. Mason Hurla - 11 - St. Marys
5. Adrian Lange - 10 - Lyons
6. Brody Carroll - 10 - Marion

135:
1. Dalton Davis - 12 - Lakin
2. Brett Terrell - 12 - Norton
3. Tagen Lambotte - 9 - Rossville
4. Austin Lopez - 11 - Ellis
5. Chase Mayfield - 11 - Eureka
6. Eddie Creek - 11 - Marysville

140:
1. Kale Newell - 12 - Smith Center
2. Kiefer Hurla - 12 - Rossville
3. Billy Broeckelman - 12 - Norton
4. Alex Thibault - 10 - Halstead
5. Riley Hunsicker - 11 - Ellis
6. Kyle Rice - 12 - Horton

145:
1. Ky Biddle - 11 - Central-Burden
2. Sheldon Graves - 12 - Rossville
3. Hunter Stalford - 11 - Caney Valley
4. Nathan Deeds - 12 - Goodland
5. Michael Fobes - 12 - ACCHS
6. Dalton Snyder - 11 - Hoxie

152:
1. Tyler McMichael - 11 - Central-Burden
2. Colten Johnson - 11 - Marion
3. Mark Smith - 12 - Rossville
4. Thomas Rachow - 12 - Phillipsburg
5. Dylan Bainter - 12 - Hoxie
6. Eric Albers - 11 - Oakley

160:
1. Landon Keiswetter - 12 - Norton
2. Braden Mayes - 12 - Beloit
3. Nathan Becker - 12 - Garden Plain
4. Derek Tyler - 10 - St. Marys
5. Brady Barrett - 10 - Cimarron
6. Nathan Hanna - 12 - Hill City

171:
1. Zach Eaton - 12 - Smith Center
2. Spencer Shirk - 12 - Norton
3. Riley Denny - 10 - Caney Valley
4. Brock Long - 10 - Southeast of Saline
5. Jesse LaMay - 11 - Wellsville
6. Eric Hellerud - 11 - Hoisington

189:
1. Tate Omli - 12 - Ell-Saline
2. Tyler Lowe - 11 - Eureka
3. Colt Castlebury - 11 - Douglass
4. Jesse Campbell - 12 - Wellsville
5. Augie Schmidt - 11 - Bluestem
6. Thomas Durham - 12 - Fredonia

215:
1. Luke Hayes - 11 - Scott City
2. John Siale - 12 - Chaparral
3. Adam Guthmiller - 12 - St. Francis
4. Tanner Taylor - 11 - Burlington
5. Ethan Soeken - 12 - Hoisington
6. Ethan James - 12 - Wakeeney

285:
1. Dillon Salmans - 12 - Hoxie
2. Clay Wilcox - 10 - Chaparral
3. Dakota Denny - 12 - Caney Valley
4. Josh Martinez - 12 - Marysville
5. David Green - 12 - Central Heights
6. Dylon Voorhies - 12 - Fredonia

Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Chiefs] #177718 01/04/11 02:57 AM
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why is mason hurla ranked as high as he is at 130

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First things first, If you r going to b talking about a HS kid and naming names then post your own name.As far as the ? Mason is still unbeaten, and has improved alot from last year. This weekend will be a good test for him.


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Originally Posted By: themanbob
why is mason hurla ranked as high as he is at 130


Who should be ranked above him and why?


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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Chief Renegade] #177883 01/05/11 09:59 PM
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Can anyone tell me what happened to Cody Sherlock from St Francis ??


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He gave wrestling up last year, decided he didn't want to wrestle anymore.

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Re: 321A Update - Need your info! [Re: Never give up] #177959 01/06/11 07:06 PM
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This is interesting that 6 of the top 10 teams are from eastern KS. I believe the only eastern KS team to win 321A was ACCHS when they did it back to back a long time ago.

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well thats because its not what they have done in the past its how there doing this year

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