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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: Cokeley] #189955 05/10/11 06:58 PM
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58 wrestlers. frown


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: Chief Renegade] #189974 05/11/11 01:01 AM
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Very sad. Less than 10 years ago there were dang near 300 at Junction City.

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You guys should watch it on over-reacting. The Blue Chip tourney only have a few kids signed up until a day or 2 before the deadline. I would bet this one will fill up if everyone stops acting like it is a bust.

But on the other side, I did like Junction City - at the end of May. But we will still be there.

Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: John Johnson] #189990 05/11/11 12:00 PM
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Let's go guys. Get to at least 200! We had 337 registered last year...


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: Chief Renegade] #189998 05/11/11 12:52 PM
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i am sure that some more kids will sign up, but I really think that this is an indicator that some things need to change in KS for Freestyle and Greco. I think that if high school coaches were allowed to actually coach freestyle and Greco during this time of the year you would see the numbers go up. High School coaches have great influence on many of these kids that are setting at home during the weekends. Scheduling and timing is another issue that might need to be addressed. A lot of kids are involved in a spring sport right now for their high school and will be until the end of may.


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We never had near 300 when the tournament was after school was out. The two times we have had it earlier our numbers have been by far the greatest.

We need to work hard to insure that we have enough officials every year to have it on the same weekend as Missouri. Last weekend would have been much better than this weekend. This weekend there are many, many graduation conflicts. In fact, I believe Rose Hill's graduation is this Sunday. It might be a good thing that our numbers are low... Last year the tournament left a bad taste in many of our parents and supporters mouths. The tournament director vowed not to host it again. EVERY year the majority of participants are from Eastern 1/4 of the state but we continue to schedule away from there. I hope the corporate board learns to listen to the data and its constituents.


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We need to get Kids Folkstyle overwith before High School State, and start Greco/Freestyle earlyer for everyone. Then have Greco/Freestyle state the end of April or the 1st of May.


I found this on USA wrestling Utah's web page. They start Freestyle and Greco the end of Febuary as soon as high school state ends, and Utah has LOT small Wrestling population then Kansas,

UTAH USA WRESTLING April 22, 2011

"This last weekend concluded our 2011 USA Wrestling Utah season with the Freestyle State Championships. We had 459 wrestlers competing which is a huge improvement in numbers from the previous year!"

459, that is way more then we have had the last 4 years I've been around.

Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: Dad of 6] #190002 05/11/11 02:30 PM
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Jonny was wondering if theres a small bracket at intermidate 75 can he move up to Schoolboy division to wrestle for State. I was not sure of the rules for freestyle and greco.


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I am not sure why we are listing weight classes as we are combining kids below the Schoolboy division. We should consider the Blue Chip Kids1 Kids2 split instead of the traditional age groups. It should be about mat time and experience, not winning at that age.


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We need to stop complaining about where the tournament is and how many numbers there are signed up. The numbers will be there, in every tournament all summer numbers are down until the day before and then everyone signs up last minute. I know many people that will be doing this regardless of the worry that the numbers will be low. We need to ,as a state, make sure that the kids in our clubs and high schools are attending and not going else where. I know there are a number of kids thinking about going to Northern Plains instead of state. And in some cases I know that those boys should go there to get the better competition so they can get on track for becoming Fargo All-Americans. I know that there are multiple graduations going on and we can’t do anything about that other than have it another weekend. How many different weekends have we tried over the years and all we is get is complaining from one half of the state, we make it two days again and we hear complaining from the other half. We have it in Eastern Kansas and one half of the state is mad. If it is in the middle or west of the state then the eastern half is mad. Just do our job as coaches, parents and mentors and get our kids to compete and go win that state title. Come on Kansas, stop complaining and get kids there!!!


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: Cokeley] #190017 05/11/11 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
I am not sure why we are listing weight classes as we are combining kids below the Schoolboy division. We should consider the Blue Chip Kids1 Kids2 split instead of the traditional age groups. It should be about mat time and experience, not winning at that age.


so midget, novice, interm. Maybe combined and Schoolboy, cadet, juniors run by age right.

And you know if numbers are a issue we want more kids. Missouri's state tournament is open to out of state entries for anyone not schoolboy or above. Maybe we should consider that for next year


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: hotrodder54] #190048 05/12/11 03:06 PM
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Bottom line - If you aren't scared to wrestle other top kids in the state and you want to get better. You show up and wrestle.

Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: lazyman_1] #190063 05/12/11 09:36 PM
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Why would I be scared? I'm not wrestling anyone I just drive the truck.


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: hotrodder54] #190072 05/13/11 03:00 AM
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If they combined it, they combine it. If they don't, they dont. Let's just get it on. Good Luck to everyone.


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: John Johnson] #190109 05/14/11 01:22 PM
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The Saturday morning session of Greco is about to start!!


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: usawks1] #190110 05/14/11 01:28 PM
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... the first whistles have blown! We have about 125 Greco competitors!!


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: usawks1] #190111 05/14/11 01:35 PM
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We have 270 total Greco wrestlers which is up 11!

We have 315 total for Freestlyle which is down 22.

Of course these numbers are subject to a slight change!


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: usawks1] #190112 05/14/11 02:27 PM
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Found a ride; good luck to all today and get ready cadets and juniors

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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: P. Pitbull's Old Dog] #190113 05/14/11 05:01 PM
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Greco is just winding down and Freestlye is about to wind up!!


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Re: State FS Tournament 05/14 and 05/15,2011! [Re: usawks1] #190114 05/14/11 07:49 PM
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Saturdays session is winding down ... weigh-ins here, are at 6 pm!

USAW Corporate Board Meeting in a bit!

Back tomorrow for the Cadets and Juniors!!


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