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Classification Changes?? #207951 08/23/12 02:12 AM
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Does anyone have any predictions?

Hutchinson 1395 1395
Gardner-Edgerton 1345 1345
OP-Blue Valley West 1334 1334
Leavenworth 1289 1289
Wichita-West 1281 1281
Stilwell-Blue Valley 1260 1260
Kansas City-Wyandotte 1224 1224
Liberal 1203 1203
Emporia 1176 1176

1289 was the cut off for 6A last year...

Topeka-Highland Park 753 753
Andover Central 747 747
Goddard-Eisenhower 740 740
SM-Bishop Miege 740 740
Winfield 720 720
Pittsburg 717 717
Bonner Springs 709 709
Maize South 697 697
Lenexa-St. James Academy 689 689
McPherson 683 683
De Soto 679 679

720 was the cut off for 5A last year

Hoyt-Royal Valley 288 288
Larned 286 286
Nickerson 280 280
Baxter Springs 279 279
Hesston 266 266
Wichita-Collegiate 264 264
Cheney 261 261
Hiawatha 261 261
Haven 258 258
Burlington 254 254
Frontenac 252 252
Kingman 251 251
Easton-Pleasant Ridge 250 250
Goodland 249 249
Riverton 249 249
Hays-TMP-Marian 247 247
Holcomb 247 247
Scott Community 245 245
St. George-Rock Creek 244 244
Gypsum-Southeast of Saline 241 241
Silver Lake 240 240

258 was the cut off for 4A


Who is going to move up or down this year??


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Andover Central will be 4a , 99.9% sure .

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Emporia will be 5A in football this year. I'm fairly certain...


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Originally Posted By: jamesart29
Emporia will be 5A in football this year. I'm fairly certain...


Football classifications were already determined through 2014, in 2011.


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While it would likely not go into effect this year if passed. Here is an agenda item for KSHSAA for the Sept. meeting.

Proposal: Replace the current Rule 5 with the following:
Art. 1: The Kansas Equitable Classification Plan
Enrollment (75%)
Qualifying Criteria:
F.T.E
Economic (10%)
Qualifying Criteria:
Free and Reduced Lunch
Societal (10%)
Qualifying Criteria:
Minority
Population Draw
Single Household
(Human Resources Qualifier)
*potential added 10 points*
Performance (5%)
Qualifying Criteria:
Historic Performance
a. Each of four major criteria receives a score based on
qualifying criteria and figures into the final K.E.C.P.
formula proportionally as follows: Enrollment (75%),
Economic (10%), Societal (10%), and Performance
(5%).
b. Final ranked K.E.C.P. scores for each High School in
Kansas are to be divided into seven groups denoting
1A (lowest scores) through 7A (highest scores) classification.
c. Under the K.E.C.P. there will be 2-year status for all
sports and all sports at a school will be in the same
classification.
d. The Human Resources Qualifier may be exercised by
a school as an appeal of the societal portion of their
final K.E.C.P. score if they can show local competition
for student population, and/or faculty, and/or
staff from schools absent of similar social/economic
disadvantage within the K.E.C.P. formula. This ap2012
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peal must come after the tentative classifications are
announced and before the K.E.C.P. deadline for that
classification cycle.
e. Any school that wishes to, may petition to move up to
the next higher classification group. This move will
not trigger the automatic addition of another school
into their original classification group. In order to be
approved, a move up will have to receive a simple
majority vote in favor of the move from schools in
the higher classification group.

http://www.kshsaa.org/Publications/SeptemberAgenda.pdf

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Folks,

I was originally just trying to have some light hearted humor with my original post. It seems that my sense of humor had some bad timing. I apologize and did not mean to offend anyone. Just wanted to see if I could get my buddy Will fired up.

Shawn Budke

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The kids haven't picked up their new cars yet, so I don't they actually enroll until after they get something to drive to enrollment....... wink

Cokeley's trick of offering guided hunts to new recruits died in a hurry for lack of game..........

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Originally Posted By: doug747
The kids haven't picked up their new cars yet, so I don't they actually enroll until after they get something to drive to enrollment....... wink

Cokeley's trick of offering guided hunts to new recruits died in a hurry for lack of game..........


We have had several failed attempts to reintroduce coyotes, wolves, and cougars back into Rooks and Graham county.


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That was my attempt at sarcasm. Not very good I guess...


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Saint James Academy 730 estimated


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What I have heard from the GWAC:

Goodland estimated at around 280
Colby estimated at around 305
Hugoton estimated at around 300
Holcomb estimated at around 260
Scott City estimated around 245
Not sure on Ulysses, but I'm sure they are securely in 4a.

Looks like there is a really good chance that the GWAC will have four teams in 4A with Goodland moving up to join Colby, Hugoton, and Ulysses in 4A while Holcomb and Scott City will likely stay in 321A.


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Actually, looking at the cut off numbers from last year, there is a chance that Holcomb may also move up. They were right on the line last year and look to be right there again.


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I general is enrollment up or down throughout the state this year? What is the guess on where the line is drawen for each classifcation? Just curious.

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Goddard...4A?

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It is anticipated that Kansas' overall enrollment will be slightly greater this year than last.


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I think Leavenworth will go down to 5A. They were the smallest 6A last year at 1289. Should get out of the Sunflower League. Competitive year after year only in boys BB. Would like to see 5A Leavenworth, Lansing, Mill Valley and Turner plus 6A KC Washington, Wyandotte, Schlagle and Harmon form a new league. Would be a balanced league in almost all sports. The remaining Kaw Valley could reform by picking up 4A Sumner Academy and 4A Atchison from the WYCO league.


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Consistently place in top half of the Sunflower League over the last 4 years - not competitive? Last year wrestling team was 4th with 3 League champions. Our wrestling team competes just fine in the league we are in.


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I expect Leavenworth to be at least top 4 this year at league with two likely champions.


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OK. Talk Leavenworth Sunflower League sports achievements other than wrestling and boys BB---and wrestling is middle of the pack. Not a lot to brag about in other sports. LHS has a pecular problem--many of the student population are military dependents. Difficult to build consistent sports programs when the coaches will be lucky to get a kid for 3 years--more like 2. They either get to LHS as F or S and military dad or mom is transfered--or they come to LHS as juniors or seniors. Seldom see a four year athlete at LHS--especially in the team sports: FB, BB, soccer, baseball, etc. A 3 year athlete is about as rare as a 4 year athlete. For the sake of all the athletes and sports programs at LHS, go down to 5A and get out of the Sunflower.

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Is there a bone to pick with our school? I grew up in Leavenworth and now teach here so I know the dynamics of the town well. Leavenworth is a fantastic school with a growing athletic program that has been overhauled the past few years and is beginning to build winners.

A more transient military population does not mean consistent sports programs cannot be built. The baseball team made the state playoffs in 2011 and was extremely competitive in the Sunflower League last year with a winning record and should be just as tough this year. It has been about 5 years since their last state title, but our ladies track program was as dominant for over a decade as an athletic program can be.

So all middle of the pack programs should be dropped from their affiliated league? If our school population places us in 5A this year or the next, so be it, but it isn't really a choice our school gets to make. It does not affect me as the competition there for wrestling is just as tough or tougher. And maybe someday a population shift may require the need to look at conference affiliation, but our enrollment is near 1300 this year and I believe our athletic program as a whole will be extremely competitive this year in a number of sports, not just basketball. For the "sake" of our athletes, I will tell them they if they work hard enough they can be competitive in any league or classification.




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