Now you're back to heckling my standup. The world is returned to its natural order.

Steve I don't know you and from the sounds of it really don't care to. But to make a slam against a 15 year old kid. Way uncool and no class at all. I'm sure you haven't ever made a mistake, right Captain DB?

Thanks J. Dale but I got this. Steve please call me. Would love to have a private conversation with you. I'll be waiting. My number is no secret.

I can't stand this anymore. The last time these to wrestled was back in 2011 at kids state. Trent won.
Now does that count when ranking today?

Joe Pratt

Steve,

Let's have a teaching moment in front of all on this forum. If there are two wrestlers to consider and one beat the other, then head to head rules. Now look at the details and learn. Rodd lost to many others. One is an unranked wrestler with several losses. Should that unranked wrestler be above both Lisher and Rodd? That wrestler has several losses to other unranked wrestlers. See the problem with your statement?

Steve, really, are you an idiot? The comments you make on here do not benefit anything. Is it because genetically you know that you can never add to the progress of Kansas wrestling, so you take cheap shots on everyone that can? Cokeley, Cavanaugh, etc. Take your shots on your parents.

I think I finally figured out who farted. Steve claim it.

Ha

Now Steve wipe the drool off your chin and say something funny Mr. Comedian

At 113 Logan Terril lost to Nick Ornelas at Perry this year head to head. Logan is still the #2 Ranked wrestler in the state, and had been rated #1 for a couple of weeks. Should we not consider anything else but head to head? Until they wrestle again, Logan should be ranked behind Nick. By your logic, that is exactly how it should be. Now when COMMON SENSE and other factors are looked at Logan stays the #2 ranked wrestler in the state.

Steve, making ignorant remarks gives you no credibility. You have some valid points, at times, but your ignorance overshadows your valid points to the point people do not take you serious.

I'm not saying I am immune from ignorant or stupid statements from time to time. The difference is when I know I am wrong, I will admit it, apologize and move on.

Food for Thought.

Was it this year or at a 6U novice tournament?

Ok guys. We need to give the poor guy a break. It probably takes him an hour and a half to watch 60 minutes.

According to the criteria used here vanlerburg should be ranked above dulgarian and pratt should be ranked above williams. Both have faced stronger competition and both have won. Public schools cant be faulted for not having the budgets to send their wrestling team's to these tough tournament's. The criteria I am referring to is Salsbury jumping wuthnow in the rankings.

Of course I mean a win in the current season. So according to you all a head to head win over a wrestler in the current season doesn't mean anything.

Tyson,

I've never taken a shot at anyone that didn't do it to me first. I'll treat you how you treat me.

Tryingtobesilent,
Wuthnow is not from SJA. That is the real criteria here.

I know wuthnow isnt from sja, im saying I dont agree with wuthnow being jumped in the rankings due to strength of schedule. If so , then there should be alot more changes in the rankings because theres alot of studs out there that attend schools that cant or for some other reason dont attend some of the premier tough tournament's in kansas.

I remember that season pretty well. Salisbury beat wuthnow by 1 point in the semifinal and beat ortiz in the championship by 1 point.

Chief,
It is pretty obvious that Rodd has wrestle very tough competition, but I would really like to see who Lisher has wrestled this season.

Dee Gard

Lisher has beaten:
Jared Heckman 3x
Donte Boose
PJ Cheney

Incorrect. Dulgarian and Williams have current year commons over Ben and Pratt. Not only that, Isaac and Dustin are common sense better.

Let's clear this one up for now...

Salsbury vs. Top 10 at 182:

Beat #3
Beat #4
Common win over #5
Common win over #6
Common win over #7
Common win over #8
Common win over #9
Common win over #10

Wuthnow vs. Top 10 at 182:

No criteria


Wuthnow is one of our toughest in Kansas. I ranked him in the Top 10 in our Senior Class in my Article 49 feature for Intermat. His schedule is the only reason he has no criteria against the top ten. He is on a collision course to meet Gavin Grater at state. I am a Nick Wuthnow and Gavin Grater fan! Should be a good one...