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Re: Taunting [Re: Rford] #225418 02/18/14 03:38 AM
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Travis thanks for sharing the match. My goal is for my kids to wrestle like terry brands. I love the intensity and fire that he has. In my room we preach intensity and hunger. I love watching those kinds of kids wrestle. The just make me smile. wink. It amazes me how many people do not like that style, how some think it is dirty or classless but in my eyes it is passion. There are many stlyles of wrestling and to each his own!

Re: Taunting [Re: Travis Phippen] #225419 02/18/14 03:40 AM
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Originally Posted By: Travis Phippen
Bill,

Watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sndY3caXU2E

Is Brands taunting NCAA Jeff Prescott, I don't think so, he is making an exciting match with intensity. He pushes him when he lets him up and tries to create more opportunity to score and break his opponent mentally and eventually gets the tech fall.



That doesn't look quite what I think was going on in the high school match under discussion. Brands was truly great. He is so aggressive, at all times, that his opponent just gets worn down. Brands popped him two different times in the back of the head with his forearm but one was as he was going out and the other during a flurry and he is moving so fast all the time I'm sure the ref didn't catch it. He body slammed him into the mat at one point that would probably get called a slam in HS, but it was during a real aggressive move and just too fast. I think his coach went to the table at one time to complain about the rough treatment. Penn State got called for for stalling three times for backing up, and the last point was for the tech fall, but I don't think the kid had a chance to stand his ground with Brands pushing and pounding him senseless. Good match. Good wrestling.

Re: Taunting [Re: Travis Phippen] #225420 02/18/14 04:32 AM
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I feel if you have to belittle the other wrestler to win your not as good as you think!! I get it!! It's a man sport but I will not have my son act like that!! He is 18 and he knows I didn't raise him to be that kind of man!! Because if you act like that on the mat i'am pretty sure you act like that off the mat!!

Re: Taunting [Re: Beeson] #225427 02/18/14 01:35 PM
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Beeson's comment: Unfortunately all parents have not taught their children right from wrong. Even worse, some parents encourage this type of behavior. Where parents have failed, coaches need to try and do right. Now, coaches and parents can not be every where at all times. Personally, I would have said something to the kid if I saw this type of behavior and put a stop to it immediately. Sometimes, just knowing that they have been seen doing wrong will stop the behavior. Allowing it, is telling them it is ok. [/quote]

Beeson: an excellent comment exactly on point!!
Bill M.


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Re: Taunting [Re: WillyM] #225431 02/18/14 02:20 PM
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Wrestling is not for lemmings. It is about individual expression and as long as it stays within the rules!! Such style differences and personality diversity should be respected and embraced. While I may or may not coach any of my kids to do what you may or may not do, as long as it is within the rules it should be accepted and not chastised. America is about freedom of choice and there are boundaries in place that have been eroding this freedom. I am all for stopping the senseless removal of freedom of expression. The schools are bending over backwards to turn all of our kids into nameless, faceless, robots armed with nothing more than socialistic philosophies. The emasculation of the male youth has to stop soon or we will continue to sink into the socialist abyss.

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Re: Taunting [Re: Cokeley] #225437 02/18/14 02:56 PM
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I have no qualms with letting a man up & taking him down, over and over in order to break him or work for a major when pinning is not there. But what about when we all know one wrestler can pin another at will and does not?
Opinions?

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Originally Posted By: westwrestling
I have no qualms with letting a man up & taking him down, over and over in order to break him or work for a major when pinning is not there. But what about when we all know one wrestler can pin another at will and does not?
Opinions?




Could cost you a state championship!


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Will,
You are sounding like a Libertarian running for President!

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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
Wrestling is not for lemmings. It is about individual expression and as long as it stays within the rules!! Such style differences and personality diversity should be respected and embraced. While I may or may not coach any of my kids to do what you may or may not do, as long as it is within the rules it should be accepted and not chastised. America is about freedom of choice and there are boundaries in place that have been eroding this freedom. I am all for stopping the senseless removal of freedom of expression. The schools are bending over backwards to turn all of our kids into nameless, faceless, robots armed with nothing more than socialistic philosophies. The emasculation of the male youth has to stop soon or we will continue to sink into the socialist abyss.
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You get my vote for post of the month and any office you decide to run for!

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Originally Posted By: Cokeley
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I have no qualms with letting a man up & taking him down, over and over in order to break him or work for a major when pinning is not there. But what about when we all know one wrestler can pin another at will and does not?
Opinions?




Both wrestlers run that risk if you do those things, the high level you do it in the more risk is that your oposition can make you pay for it at some point.

Live by the sword and die by it at times.

Could cost you a state championship!


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Wrestling is not for lemmings. It is about individual expression and as long as it stays within the rules!! Such style differences and personality diversity should be respected and embraced. While I may or may not coach any of my kids to do what you may or may not do, as long as it is within the rules it should be accepted and not chastised. America is about freedom of choice and there are boundaries in place that have been eroding this freedom. I am all for stopping the senseless removal of freedom of expression. The schools are bending over backwards to turn all of our kids into nameless, faceless, robots armed with nothing more than socialistic philosophies. The emasculation of the male youth has to stop soon or we will continue to sink into the socialist abyss.




This is one of the best comments on any page.This is one of the main reasons my son wrestles.Ty Cokeley

Re: Taunting [Re: CWB] #225458 02/18/14 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: CWB
Wrestling is not for lemmings. It is about individual expression and as long as it stays within the rules!! Such style differences and personality diversity should be respected and embraced. While I may or may not coach any of my kids to do what you may or may not do, as long as it is within the rules it should be accepted and not chastised. America is about freedom of choice and there are boundaries in place that have been eroding this freedom. I am all for stopping the senseless removal of freedom of expression. The schools are bending over backwards to turn all of our kids into nameless, faceless, robots armed with nothing more than socialistic philosophies. The emasculation of the male youth has to stop soon or we will continue to sink into the socialist abyss.

This is one of the best comments on any page.This is one of the main reasons my son wrestles.Ty Cokeley



Oh my God, do we now have another Cokeley?

Tell you what, I won't talk soccer or basketball, if you wont talk politics, social philosophy, or religion on this forum. NOT THE PLACE!!! I already have a nut case right wing tea party wacko across the street. I will get my politics from the news, my social philosophy from study and reading, my religion from my church and pastor! Have a good day!

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Re: Taunting [Re: WillyM] #225468 02/18/14 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted By: WillyM
Tell you what, I won't talk soccer or basketball, if you wont talk politics, social philosophy, or religion on this forum. NOT THE PLACE!!! I already have a nut case right wing tea party wacko across the street.


Wow. So you talked politics, philosophy and religion in the same post that you request to ban it?


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Re: Taunting [Re: Chief Renegade] #225476 02/18/14 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted By: Chief Renegade
Originally Posted By: WillyM
Tell you what, I won't talk soccer or basketball, if you wont talk politics, social philosophy, or religion on this forum. NOT THE PLACE!!! I already have a nut case right wing tea party wacko across the street.


Wow. So you talked politics, philosophy and religion in the same post that you request to ban it?


Sorry chief, you misread something somewhere. But that is a common occurrence on this forum by a lot of readers.

I think our old friend Coklely posted a political diatribe. Then CWB, who identified himself as a Cokely, commented that that was the best post ever then went into another diatribe on socialism, the failures of our schools, how we were ruining or youth-everything except a long homophobic rant or a rail against same sex marriage. The same stuff you hear from politicians (Republicans) and many preachers. I get dragged across the coals, called ignorant, dumb, etc, for mentioning soccer and basketball. Wrestling folks don't like a/o hate those 2 sports and have told me often this wrestling forum is "NOT THE PLACE". OK, nor is this the place for politics, social philosophy, and religion. If you must, send a letter to the editor, talk with your social science professor, talk to your pastor---those are the "RIGHT PLACES".

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Re: Taunting [Re: CWB] #225478 02/18/14 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted By: CWB
Wrestling is not for lemmings. It is about individual expression and as long as it stays within the rules!! Such style differences and personality diversity should be respected and embraced. While I may or may not coach any of my kids to do what you may or may not do, as long as it is within the rules it should be accepted and not chastised. America is about freedom of choice and there are boundaries in place that have been eroding this freedom. I am all for stopping the senseless removal of freedom of expression. The schools are bending over backwards to turn all of our kids into nameless, faceless, robots armed with nothing more than socialistic philosophies. The emasculation of the male youth has to stop soon or we will continue to sink into the socialist abyss.




This is one of the best comments on any page.This is one of the main reasons my son wrestles.Ty Cokeley


That is not Ty Cokeley. I believe he is saying "Thank You Cokeley"


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Re: Taunting [Re: Beeson] #225481 02/18/14 06:49 PM
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... I was hoping Will was still "getting busy" and we had another young one!!!


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Re: Taunting [Re: Beeson] #225504 02/18/14 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted By: Beeson
Originally Posted By: CWB
Wrestling is not for lemmings. It is about individual expression and as long as it stays within the rules!! Such style differences and personality diversity should be respected and embraced. While I may or may not coach any of my kids to do what you may or may not do, as long as it is within the rules it should be accepted and not chastised. America is about freedom of choice and there are boundaries in place that have been eroding this freedom. I am all for stopping the senseless removal of freedom of expression. The schools are bending over backwards to turn all of our kids into nameless, faceless, robots armed with nothing more than socialistic philosophies. The emasculation of the male youth has to stop soon or we will continue to sink into the socialist abyss.


This is one of the best comments on any page.This is one of the main reasons my son wrestles.Ty Cokeley


That is not Ty Cokeley. I believe he is saying "Thank You Cokeley"


What ever, then don't give me a ration of crap about soccer. If its not a Ty Cokeley than he is signing in as CWB ??? Think it may be RC trying to be cute and not the old his man. Must think he is texting.

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Too funny. Please Bill continue.


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Re: Taunting [Re: WillyM] #225561 02/19/14 05:05 PM
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I am CHARLES BRADFORD. The school are trying to raising A bunch Wussy kids. To just blindly follow the rules.
The last duel my son went to [south side] He lunged down for a leg when being picked up in a dubble. You should have herd the people.He hit the mat hard. No call made AS THERE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN.He made the move to the ground. Did he hit hard,yes he did.When he got off the mat I talked to him and all I can say is no matter what the schools are trying to do they are failing with my son.He is in a very tough room,wrestles brutal wrestlers and will not fail in life.
I also agree with you. There are many sports that are Hard,to remember what way to RUN.Wrestling is not one of them.

CHARLES BRADFORD

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BTW I have no clue on texting. Have never done it and never will.

Once agin CHARLES BRADFORD

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