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4a individual title predictions #32617 02/19/02 06:10 PM
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103- jake kriegbaum from abilene. kind of an easy pick.
112- danny mainus from colby. I think it's between mainus, bahe, and denault.
119- trevor charbonneau from clay center.
125- kory lira from ulysses. toss up between him and jones.
130- danny grater from clay center. grater and mcreynolds will meet in the finals probably.
135- austin pruser from clay center. pruser will have a tough quarterfinal match with allison and then meet kriesch in the finals.
140- eric johnson from norton
145- matt dukes from basehor linwood.
152- brandon buck from basehor linwood.
160- troy medill from lansing. should be medill and hausserman in the finals.
171- pat vogelsberg from marysville. might see another vogelsberg/weishaar match in the finals.
189- jacob strait from concordia. strait will find a way to win somehow.
215- tad greer from el dorado.
275- alan english from augusta.

Re: 4a individual title predictions #32618 02/19/02 06:14 PM
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I have a question for you chewie. Were you at the Basehor regional to see the championship match with Strait and Glenn? evidently not and you are just taking the first ranked guys, truth is Strait was 44 seconds away from losing his "ranking" when he was losing 5-2.

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i think eric luedke will win it a 130!!!

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I think Carrillo from Parsons will win at 103.

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Re: 4a individual title predictions #32622 02/20/02 01:18 AM
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I saw him wrestle at regionals. He capitalized on the ward guy's mistake. I think he'll find a way to win, like i said in the previous post. And I remind you that this is the hardest weight class to pick along with 125 and 130.

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Andrew might want to win a match at Regionals first before he wins state!

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Ok chewie, say that the ward kid did not make that mistake, who would you call out for taking it? would you pick browning? I am totaly going for the underdog, it was better for him to make a mistake at regionals now at state he will be ready and more prepared. They will see each other in the finals and if I am not mistaking Strait needs to work on his take down skills against "this kid."

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Andrew can't even beat half the kids in the SEK league let alone state.

Re: 4a individual title predictions #32626 02/20/02 04:34 PM
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I just think strait will find a way to win. I hope we get to see him wrestle the ward kid again. I think it will be a different match. I wish the draw was different so we could see strait and browning in the finals.

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Nathan Allison will win 135. I was at his Regional and he was kicking the crap out of Kriesh. And he gave up a caution point and point for lokced hadns wich was a bad call by the official.

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chewie i bet you don't get half of your pics right what about betsworth at 125, what about mcburney at 140, wiscombe at 145,strait will not beat browning at 189, what about flory at 171 he killed lattimer from ft scott,and what about travis eden at 152 he has split with buck this year and also beat frazell from chanute and he in only a freshman, and mcrenolds will win it at 130.


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Atleast I am making predictions to stir up conversation to make this message board semi-interesting. I have not seen anybody else make a complete list of predicted champions in 4a since regionals have been over. If I get atleast half my picks right I'll be happy because state is so unpredictable. I don't think betsworth can beat lira or jones and I definately don't think that wiscombe can win 45. I've seen him wrestle and he didn't impress me that much. give him a few years. After state is over I'll go over my picks and see how many were right.

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what do you mean wiscombe didn't impress you that much? you must not have seen him wrestle that much. he beat two really good wrestlers at regionals (metcalfe and stirling). that should have been the 2nd time he's beaten metcalfe too. he got screwed in the first match between the two earlier in the year. he's also lost to dukes twice barely and had him beat the second time. and i disagree with you on the betsworth thing. i see cody winning it all at 125!

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Yeah shaun, strait won't beat browning just like he didn't beat him in the finals last year. I don't think that strait will blow it, like you did against silvis. What you need to do is stop talking **** and make some positive comments about others other then sft wrestlers

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Kyle Flory or Jake Weisaar, hands down. Either one them can win it. Weisaar is just a good solid wrestler.

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Wrestler4ever, you're pretty brave on this forum, but I bet you wouldn't be so brave if you were standing right in front of Mr. Moore's face. In 2000, 4A 171 was one of the toughest weight classes I've ever seen. Being in the finals was one heck of an accomplishment itself that year. I have no clue on this, but I'll go out on a limb and say you've probably never even been in the finals before!

Re: 4a individual title predictions #32634 02/21/02 12:35 AM
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What bs is that about Shaun choking at state. Shawn Silvis was a state champion as a freshmen. He was a great highschool wrestler and is continuing to suceed in college from what i hear. Shaun knows what it takes to succeed. Just look at what he did at state. I didn't get the impression that Shaun said anything bad about anybody. He is just encouraging his SFT boys to succeed and letting everyone know that he has confidence in them.

If you asked me who i thought would win, i would say Stirling at 145lbs and Donnie Abell at 189lbs cuz they are quality wrestlers who are unbeatable when they want to be. Two past state champions and I practice with the spring hill boys, upper weights, and they are tough. Keil Jahr and Travis Conley are also great kids who are going to take home medals this year. Keil has beaten Marmon from Eudora who placed at state last year and Conley wrestled both Flory and Demearest hard. He had Lattimer beat at regionals until a ref took away 5 points from him and gave Lattimer two instead. Butch Tanney and Keil Jahr would both win twice as many matches if Keil wasn't wrestling guys that weigh 30lbs heavier and if Butch wasn't wrestling men weighing 100 pounds more.

My Predictions---just guessing
103- jake kriegbaum from abilene.
112- Bahe
119- trevor charbonneau
125- jones has the upper body of a 152 pounder and i dont think that Lira is going to have long enough legs to get past Jones' iron grip. I think that Betsworth and Lira would be one hell of a match. Betsworth looks good. He put on a show against Geske at regionals.
130- McReynolds
135- Allison (the only 5a state placer to ever do better in 4a)
140- eric johnson-cant be beat
145- Losing at regionals may have been what Stirling needed. He is hungry to win and will. Taplin and Wiscombe are both great but i bet they will make some stupid freshman errors. Dukes luck may run out against Stirling. Barringer is quality too. This bracket may be one of the hardest at state. There aren't enough rankings to cover all the qualifiers.
152- brandon buck and Eden. Its a toss up
160- troy medill from lansing. I haven't seen Hausserman this year. If Pratt can upset him in the second round, i expect him to be in the finals for round 3 against Medill.
171- pat vogelsberg from marysville. He is the only proven wrestler. a two time placer that knows how to win at state. This bracket is a toss up. There are probably 8 guys who could place at 5a or 6a. Any of these guys could come out on top. Conley, Lattimer, DeMearest, Weishaar,Howell and a few others.
189- Abell gets his head out of his ass and take the title that was his last year.
215- tad greer from el dorado.
275- Witt Hinton. He doesn't weigh 275, but i have never seen i highschool kid as tall and muscular as this guy.

Words of advice.

Dont talk trash. (you will get stuck).
Wrestle one guy at a time.
Dont think ahead, (you will lose).
Dont be overconfident. (You will lose)
Dont be intimidated by anyone or the atmosphere the colliseum presents. You will be sidetracked and lose.
Wrestle smart, State is not the time to try moves you dont normally do. If the score is tied, dont try to force a throw in the waning seconds. Just be patient and get er done in overtime. Dont ever quit. I have seen people losing by 4 pts and win in the last 3 seconds. Dont look at records and expect anything because of it. Some kids have a pancake schedule, and some kids get beat by one guy 6 times in a season. Every year, an undefeated kid loses his first 2 matches in 4a wrestling.

Good luck all wrestlers. Best of luck to the Spring Hill boys. Bring home some medals.

Jason Ross

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after loolking at the brackets I like
103 #1Kriebaum Abilene vs DeVoe Columbus
112 #1Denault Con with a tough match vs Mainus and #2Bahe Goodland
119 #1Charbonneu Clay C vs probably Bowman Columbus also possible Prater Pratt or Cagle Ft.Scott
125 #1Jones Coffey vs Lira Ulysses, Betsworth SFT also possible less odds Close Clay C.
130 #1McReynolds Columbus vs Grater Clay Center
135 #1Pruser Clay Center with a tough match against Allison Ft Scott vs Kriesch Chapman
140 #1 Johnson Norton vs McBurney SFT
145 #1 Rush Clay Center with a tough match with Taplin abilene vs Dukes Basehor -Lin
152 wide open both halves bracket Buck Basehor vs Clark Wellington
160 #1 upset Baylor Columbus with Hausserman Norton vs #2 Medill Lansing
171 #1Vogelsburg Marysville vs Howell Nickerson
189 #1 Browning Osaw with strait Con vs Abell Spring H over Rickenbaugh Augusta
215 #1 Greer El D vs Bedore Good or LaVoie Con or Brockaway Indy
275 #1 English Augusta vs Perdue Columbus or Hinton Baldwin

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103-Kriegbaum
112-Denault
119-Charbonneau
125-Jones
130-McReynolds
135-Pruser
140-Johnson
145-Dukes
152-Buck
160-Toss up, Baylor and Pratt could surprise Hausserman and Medill
171-Weishaar
189-Strait, Get physical with Browning, and he will usually lose.
215-Greer
275-pretty weak, Hinton's got a shot

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