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Stirling vs. Dukes #32718 02/12/02 04:46 AM
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Who is better Josh Stirling or Matt dukes? Who do you think will win if they wrestled?

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32719 02/13/02 03:19 AM
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i don't know but i don't think they're the 2 best in the state at 145

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32720 02/13/02 05:08 PM
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If Dukes wrestles his game like he always does he should have the upper hand.

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Well I think Dukes would win but I know he got scared a little bit when a freshman wrestled him to a 6-5 score and a poorly reffed match!

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32722 02/14/02 05:31 AM
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Dukes is very dangerous, and Stirling hasn't looked that great this year. So I would say that Dukes will win if they wrestle at state.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32723 02/14/02 02:58 PM
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Yeah Dukes was a little siked out, but I feel he has that under control and will go into state well prepared and ready to fight.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32724 02/15/02 02:27 AM
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Dukes was a little what?

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32725 02/15/02 05:50 PM
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Siked.............. alittle nervous, excited, anxious, and annoyed because people always talk Sh*t, but he won and thats all that counts in the end and on the records.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32726 02/16/02 03:03 AM
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I wasn't sure if you meant sick or psyched

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32727 02/17/02 04:55 AM
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Dukes. Dukes beat wiscombe twice and wiscombe beat stirling. Can dukes beat taplin? (who also beat wiscombe) Can wiscombe beat dukes or taplin if given another chance?.. we will see next week.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32728 02/17/02 05:11 AM
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i dont know but at regionals dukes didnt look like he was up to par with the hayden kind in the semi-finals when he was on his back in the last part other than that he was rather impressive to watch

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32729 02/18/02 02:00 AM
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Dukes was beat at regionals! Ingenthron got jobbed by the ref (who by the way seemed to be officiating all the Basehor matches, and just happened to be at the seeding meeting Thursday night WITH the Basehor coaches!!) and the scorekeeper who took a penalty point away from Ingenthron that was awarded in the 2nd period. Everyone who saw the match knows Ingenthron won that match. Dukes will be knocked out by the semis at state!

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32730 02/18/02 02:35 AM
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Yes Dukes did have a tough match against Ingenthrone. But what about his finals match against rush from clay center I know rush is tough and i know dukes is tough i lost to both of them by a point... Did dukes just catch rush in a pinning combination or what could you please inform me.


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Yes I was their watching the match with Ingenthrons cousin Ryan Phillips (the one who pinned Dukes last year in the finals of the state tournyment in 31 seconds flat). Yes dukes should have had his second loss but the refs did give the shaft to hayden.

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i attended the Basehor Linwood regional and would just like to clear up what happened in the match between Matt Dukes and Kyle Ingenthron. With about 30 seconds left Matt was ahead 13-8. Kyle got 2 points (sorry, i don't recall if they were take down or reversal) and then got Matt on his back and kept him there for the remaining time (about 10 sec.) and received 3 point near fall. So the score should have been 13-13, but the scoreboard said 13-15 in Ingenthron's favor. When the coaches took their books to the table, the ref looked at them and said it should be 12-13 (Duke's winning) because the scorekeeper put up a penalty point against Matt that he never called. I personally thought that it should have went into overtime, because I thought the penalty point was given (and it was in both teams books), but I do know that Dukes was not wrestling to his full capebility and definitely proved himself when he went out and pinned Josiah Rush in finals.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32733 02/18/02 05:32 AM
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I would like to see dukes and rush wrestle again.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32734 02/18/02 06:54 PM
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I have been following this topic of awhile. I wrestled 145 my junior and senior year of high school. This year is very different than the past two years. I really think that it is wide open at state. The burlington reg. and the B.L. reg. were the tougher of the four reg. at 145. The top four in both reg. have an excellent shot and placing. I have seen or wrestled many of these guys. Just remember at the state tourney anything can and will happen.

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32735 02/19/02 12:47 AM
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I was also there and I think that was cheap of the ref, but you have to remember that the ref was from Basehor and was probably bias that whole tourney. Dukes showed his potential when he took out Rush with a pin when it all counted.

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Rush just got caught by Dukes, they were both scrambling and Rush got off balance and Dukes caught him on his back. F.Y.I Justin

Re: Stirling vs. Dukes #32737 02/19/02 03:41 PM
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For all you doubters out there you all sit there and say the other guy in the semi finals would have beat dukes, well even if the ref threw him the other point it still would have gone into overtime so who knows the outcome. I also talked to Dukes after the match and he said he didn't wrestler his hardest and was caught in a stupid move on his part and said he had to prove himself in the finals and thats exactly what he did they weren't off balance don't make excuses Dukes is stronger and threw rush to his back. And as for the other kid I believe he was put on his back three times and and took his 2 injury timeouts to get of his back, and took another again and gave Dukes the decision of top or bottom. dukes is a strong kid and great competitor and if you can't take it you shouldn't be out there. And also the reffing may have been bad but it was on everone you guys proabalblyt just chose the basehor kids to make it known because it was from Their school.

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