manhattan isnt going to place in the top eight? i guarentee manhattan places in the top 3. mike church i dont know who you think you are but before you talk trash on hat town dont you think you should know who's even wrestling? last year we took second and this year we're stacked.

Yea I was in school when I posted that...I'm a library aid one of my hours (tough class) and they came in and we was chatting and I was looking at wrestling stuff and she mentioned your guys names...

steve andrus, Great post Steve I enjoyed every word in it. You call it trash talk and thats great!! Read your own post. You get an A+ in replys.

I saw Big Steve wrestle at Cadets and he reminds me a lot of John Paul Shepherd who was overlooked by many until they were counting the lights. Steve is going to be one of the key leaders on this team...and after Manhattan does well he will resume his normal life off the mats as an expert bowler at the Kstate Student Union.

I certainly do not want to take anything away from Hoxie and Norton, they are both two tradition rich, time honored programs, but I am also not prepared to proclaim them "carriers of the big stick", especially Hoxie. Hoxie has a lot to do to make up from last year as they were beaten by the 15th place finisher in 5A. Norton, as the defending champ of Newton though, definately gets a nod but they will obviously get the chance to prove themselves again this year at Newton. Carroll, Manhattan, Aquinas, Turner, Clay Center, Ark City, Abilene, St. Francis, etc. are big stick carriers as well and certainly must be mentioned in the same breath as Norton and Hoxie.

I agree... Do any Oklahoma teams dare to try their luck at Newton this year? I believe they bit off a little more than they desired last year. Norton jumped out to an early lead with multiple falls in the pigtail rounds. Hard to catch up after that. Newton is the real deal, this is as close to a grand state that you can get. They just need more bleacher space. Great tournament!

Do not get mad at me for this reply please, but I feel that I must clear one thing up.
You do not want the big dogs from Oklahoma to come to Newton because they would rule it.
Although Perry is a quality program, they are not even top twenty in Oklahoma. They are 2A and in Oklahoma, there is a big difference between 2A and the other classes. There are fifteen or more teams in 5A and 4A that are better and 5 or so in 3A.
El Reno which is usually in the top ten in the country and I believe is ranked 16th this year would have beaten Perry ~50 to nothing last year. Ponca City, Broken Arrow and others would also destroy them. I do not want to be a hater and I love Kansas but that is simply the truth.

i still say church doesnt know anything about wrestling because scott and matt were two very good individual wrestlers but in the last 5 years we've had better teams cause odviously if they were so good they would have won state as a team o ya and quit taking shots at high schoolers man ur an old man

take manhattan down to the perry tournment and see how they fare a bunch of good oklahoma teams ponca bishop carrol ark city broken arrow chocta mid west city team from new mexico and many more.

lol ok kansas show some respect for your elders.i know enough about wrestling that i saw how manhattan stacked up a few extra points at state last year, but thats history and this is now. i dont even think your from manhattan kansaswrestler2, your spelling reminds me of someone who dropped out of campus. i may be wrong i was one other time!!

"i know enough about wrestling that i saw how manhattan stacked up a few extra points at state last year"

Thats pretty messed up to say... but hey whatever you have to tell your self
and the thing is people don’t have the slightest clue to the depth of Manhattan’s team last year...
Sure we lost a great group of seniors last year but we did the year before that and the year before and so on, and that has never stopped us from being tough competitors every year

kansaswrestler called u an old man...
haha

as long as you think your tough thats all that matters. hey and just remember when the ref blows the whistle signaling a penalty on your opponent don't forget your manhappiness trademark. stay down!!! thats how this old man remembers the hat at state last year. you tough boys just keep racking them points!!

your right church im not from manhattan ok? but you saying that we stayed down on pupose is a cheap shot old man. and as far as my spelling i dont care

Hoxie isn't the perennial powerhouse they have been. Don't get me wrong, they are still going to be a top 10 mark my words. Schamberger sp? and Baker will be placers again, Baker probably a State Champion. Tim Erwin should also place this year. They will be down again but should be a top 10 team.

Norton without a doubt is one of the top 3 teams in the State. Not sure on how well they stack up this year against the team they had last year, but with only losing Sprigg I don't think they're hurting too bad. I did hear that Logan Keiswetter (4th @ 103 321A) is playing basketball this year?

Is this the same kid who was the JV Heavyweight last year? I am not sure if you can call a JV kid that will make varsity the next yera a team leader Aaron. He might make an impact but he probably won't be a "Team Leader" right away. If I'm not mistaken he's only a sophomore. I don't know very many sophomores that take the lead of a team, usually it's the upper classmen.

I think he's gotten a lot better since last year though, and if memory serves me correctly, he was an all american at cadet freestyle nationals. That speaks for itself.

I've only heard good things and only seen good results. You hear that Steve, stay away from my sister and wrestle well. That's all I'm asking. If you don't listen to me on either one I'm going to take you down my man, big time.

i dont know if this makes steve an even better wrestler but he has a xbox 360....congrats on that big man

Oooh, I hear he planned to miss school today just to play with his new XBox. It might become a bigger distraction for him than your sister billy_mcjackson_ripjc.

haha...no he missed school today cause he went KC...it was yesterday he didnt go because of the new Xbizzle... come on Warry get the story straight