Richard -- sorry to trouble you again, but there is something I would like to add.

I was, in fact, quite proud of my accomplishments at both Immaculata and Maur Hill. In both cases I took over programs that were in abyssmal shape and managed to raise numbers and a bit of pride in the program. With no middle school or kids programs to draw from, many of the kids I had never seen a wrestling match until the first one they were in as freshmen. And quite a few of those kids went on to have pretty good careers, considering.

And I am also quite proud of the sharing agreement we had at Imac for two years with KSSB, giving several visually challenged kids (including three-time state qualifer Ronnie Hawthorne) an opportunity they may not have had otherwise.

We were on the verge of building something very special at Imac when I made the biggest mistake of my professional life by leaving at going to Maur Hill. Would love to have that one over again, but it worked out fine as I was able to return home and begin to rebuild here.

While I realize that when it comes to judging professionalism and ability you are the Lord High Executioner of Circle and all tremble in your presense, but your opinion of me is pretty meaningless. I find it extremely sad that rather than argue a point logically, you attack my abilities. Not sad for me, but for you.

I made a great many friends in the Kansas wrestling community and had many great times while I was there. Nothing, not even your pettiness, can change that. If, in your mind, the only the thing a coach can be judged on is medals from Wichita or Hays, then you're right, I was a failure in Kansas. But then again, I have two medalists in Iowa already!

But Richard, I am proud of what we did at Imac and KSSB, and not even you can change that. You can judge that anyway you'd like Richard, but I really don't care about you gibberish, either.

Sorry Gibby never said I was a English major but you could come down to o'll ark city an I could give you a lesson on wrestling if you would like, did I say that right chump. And your from topeka you was ever any good from their?

Look at the Senior National Team Standings as of right now, the nation's elite going at it....

1 73.5 OH
2 68.5 NJ
2 68.5 NY
4 66 CA
5 62 MN
6 57 PA
7 54.5 IA VS Vikes Coach must be in some competition to earn 2 medals in this competition
8 53 KS Kansas must be riding their way to the top? Right ON TOP of Missouri
9 50.5 MO Looks like they are on the end of the being rode by the KS boys, who are on top and in control
10 47.5 IL
11 46 MI
12 45.5 UT
13 42 FL
14 40.5 VA
15 33 WV
16 32.5 OK Why so low? Ususally very strong in national competiton all levels?
17 32 CO
18 27 SD
19 26 WI
20 25 IN
21 24 AZ
22 22 NC
23 20.5 GA
24 20 MA
24 20 MD
24 20 TN
27 18 TX
28 17.5 NM
29 16.5 DE
30 14 NV
31 12 CT
32 11 AK
32 11 LA
32 11 NE
35 10 WA
36 6 OR
36 6 RI
36 6 WY
39 4 AL
39 4 NH
39 4 VT
42 3 KY
43 2 ID
43 2 SC

Overall I'd say that KS is well represented and showing they aren't all lazy riders, we must be able to compete on a national scale if we're up there so high, you don't get they high just taking people down.......

Hey guys:

Just saw this and have been skimming through it.
I think it takes many people to make great wrestlers and great people. This includes coaches, parents and teachers.

Kevin does not need to be defended here but let me say that he got people to look at the possibilities of being a great wrestler. To do that you have to go where you find the best competition. He always wanted his boys to find the best and to compete.

He did train kids from the kindergarden level to the olympic level. He was mat side for their matches. Many names you mentioned had their first experience in wrestling at East Kansas.

Finally, lets give credit to all our coaches that have given their time and talent to help
kids become men and perform in a sport that they love, whether they become olympic champions
or novice champions

Hey Bronco -- since you like numbers, let me show you a few...

Through the results posted as on 9 am Saturday:
— The 11 Iowa wrestlers in 9 weights have a record of 19-5
— The 24 Kansas wrestlers in 13 weights have a record of 29-26

That averages out to 4.95 team points each for each Iowan and 1.55 per Kansan

The bottom line is that to us, Senior Nationals is not that big of a deal, but that the kids that go are pretty successful.

And yes, there was some great competition for my two medalists. Thank you for asking

Excuse me, that was 34 Kansas wrestlers, not 24 -- my bad

Coach Holmes:

Wrong again! There are 37 Kansas wrestlers entered.

Topeka is not the hotbed of wrestling. It depends on what you think is good. A few who I think were pretty good from their (THERE):
Scott Trembley Topeka West- 2X State Champ
Darian Terry- Topeka West NAIA champ
Scott Murray Washburn Rural 2X state champ
Paul Lencewski Seaman state champ
Jason Puderbaugh Seaman state champ
Justin Glasgow Seaman state champ
Larry Perez Sr. Topeka state champ
Deland Shefield state champ
Jerry Palubinski state champ
Jeremy Glassman Highland Park state champ
Ken Hertzell High park state champ
Beau Vest state champ NAIA champ more than once
Larry Perez Jr. 2X state champ JR. greco/frestlyle AA
Aaron Meggeson Shawnee Heights state champ 2X finalist
Tyler Gonzales SH state champ 2X finalist
Phil Hart SH state champ 3X placer
Blake Malloy SH state champ 3x placer
Tanner Gardner 2X undefeated state champ, Jr. Greco champ, D1 qualifier
And then those 2 brothers from Highland Park you may have heard of:
Terry Douglas
Melvin Douglas

Richard, you're right --- the three I missed were each 0-1 which makes it a 29-29 mark for Kansas. Thanks so much for correcting me on that one.

Also, I missed one of the Iowa kids; there are actually 12 instead of 11. The one I missed (Kyle Anson at 125) had two pins which raised the Iowa total to 21-5 for Day 1.

Glad I have you around to correct things for me Richard! Keep up the fine work.

P.S. -- Nice wins by Ettelson and Borschel this round as well

AC Bulldog....

"Sorry Gibby(,) (I) never said I was a(n) English major(,) but you could come down to o'll(spelling - it's "ole", a slang term for old) (A)rk (C)ity an I could give you a lesson on wrestling (,) if you would like (? - separate two questions with the question mark) (D)id I say that right chump(?) And you(')re from topeka (,) you (not you nimrod, "who") was ever any good from their (correct spelling "there")?"

First off Bulldog, you don't have to be an "English major" to know basic grammar skills that are taught at the grade school level. Question marks after questions. Capitalizing the names of towns, especially the one you're from. Your vs. you're. Basic grammar structures taught by 5th grade in every school district across the state - except AC.

Second, history seems to have been a weak point as well. Melvin Douglas, the last Kansan wrestler to make it to the Olympics came from "drum roll please......" Topeka! As you were learning your lines for successful employment, Kansas History went right by you in terms of sport history.

How did the song go again? The one you sing at work? Oh I remember!

"I work at Burger King, Making single Whoppers, I wear paper hats.

"Would you like an apple pie with that? Would you like an apple pie with that?"

"Ding fries are done, Ding fries are done. I gotta run, I gotta run....."

Don't you just hate it when gutwrench1 and VS vikes coach are proven right? If Kansas gets any worse from their feet they will be challenging the likes of NY, OH and CA for national team championships!

Team Standings Prior to Championship Final Results!

1 218 NY

2 202.5 OH

3 182 CA

4 176 NJ

5 148 IA

6 137 KS

7 122 MN

8 118.5 MI

9 112.5 IL

10 112 UT

11 93.5 MO

12 93 PA

13 92 WV

14 87.5 OK

15 81 FL

16 73 VA

17 68.5 SD

18 62.5 MD

19 54 IN

20 47.5 CO

21 47 TN

22 46.5 GA

23 46 WI

24 42 AZ

25 33 NC

26 30.5 DE

27 28 MA

28 27 NE

28 27 NV

30 26.5 AL

31 25.5 NM

32 25 KY

32 25 TX

34 22 WY

35 20 ID

36 18 OR

37 16.5 SC

38 16 AK

38 16 CT

40 15 WA

41 13 LA

42 11 NH

42 11 VT

44 6 RI

45 4 ND

46 2 MT

Yea they are right arent they?? We placed 6th in the nation and they are right because Kansas wrestling is bad on their feet?? I say that is a **** good job this year. It is better than the past few years and was Coach Klemm apart of their success?? Nope, none of these guys wrestled at EKWC.

Gutwrentch according to the results of the high school nationals you are no longer allowed to post anything regarding how good Kansas wrestlers on their feet or otherwise. This has to be the funniest thing I have seen in a long while. And whats even better is many of the Kansas guys wrestling at Nationals are NOT going Division I, and believe me its not because College DI coaches don't want them.

Gutwrench-

NHSCA Finals at 145lbs. Dustin Schlatter said, "I had to ride him, it's what won me the match" when two of the best on their feet are at a stalemate, you have to be able to ride.... This goes to show that you must be able to ride to be a National Champion, as he upsets #1 ranked Brent Metcalf.

Old gutty must be crying right about now.

riding means nothing, except a national title

VS Vike coach- in earlier posts you said you coached and helped produce a good program at Immaculata and Maur Hill. But i know Maur hill dont have a program and i'm not forsure in Immaculata did this year?

Iowa finishes one up on us with a third of the guys== big deal, our best did very well, and the others showed that they had the interest to compete and drive farther to do it than the Iowa guys did. Why did so many of the Iowans that were qualified to compete stay home? was it out of lack of interest? seems really weird to me that so many of them stayed home. Congratulations to them, but I am really proud of our improvement, whether we got any takedowns or not.

Those KS boys represented KS very well in Cleveland and congratulations all of them. It's true that KS took more kids than almost any state and I think had third or fourth biggest roster but I'm not going to use that to take anything from their success. Participation is one measure of success. It was a super job and this senior class was very talented and every one of those kids had a couple of KS coaches to credit. Congratulations to them all. I understand that had Grater not got taken down twice in the last 22 secs of his match in the quarters that he would have won and been an AA. Wrestling on your feet is critical. I stand by my position about the general style of KS wrestling. If you are one takedown better on your feet and can get away, you can win 100% of the time. If you are not better on your feet but equal, then like Schlatter says riding can make the difference. But, do you have any idea how good Schlatter is from his feet to match Metcalf? The rank and file KS wrestlers are not as good on their feet as they are on top because coaches don't value it as much as they should and refs let the top guy stall. The KS elite that represented us in Cleveland have traveled outside of the state and been exposed to more aggressive shots and counters. Again, congrats to the talented senior class from KS.

Nigel,
Are you serious? Do you really think anyone would believe that our best kids who can compete on the national hs level would rather wrestle DII, NAIA and JUCO than DI? Talk about funny. If you have the same scholarship at Neb-Lincoln as say Neb-Kearney and you go to the latter then you might have a little dain bramage. Nigel, tell me the one about the guy who passed on MLB to play single A ball. I love that story.