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Expocenter Security Guard On Power Trip #424 03/30/04 06:24 PM
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Was I the only person to witness the security guard by the head table, keeping kids off the floor, and being a JERK about it. I understand not wanting kids on the floor, but to tell a little 8u kids to go sit in the floor, because he's not up? I wanted to get on the floor to cheer on a teammate, but was turned away b/c i wasn't up in 5.... he was yelling at everyone and just being an all around JERK both days. He would yell at certain kids and let others go free. I personally didn't approve of him? anyone else's thoughts?


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I was a "victim" of this guy, my club had 8 kids wrestling and two pink passes, i had given one of the passes to my fellow coaches was taping up my kids hand on the west side when the same guy literally grabbed me and told me to leave the floor, i explained to him that i would as soon as i was done taping and would go get my pink pass to coach the three kids we had up in 3 matches. I also had with me floor passes for table workers which my family was going to do in the afternoon. He informed me that they were not valid at all.
I taped my kid up and was escorted off the floor, the officer yelling loudly as he went up behind me on the steps. One of my kids matches came up and i tried to get back to the floor, the officer then informed me that i was ejected from the building for the remainder of the tourney. I did not raise my voice, act inappropriately or anything. I was literally feet away from the head table and tried to appeal for help, the other coaches were coming with my pink pass, i had a valid table workers pass and my band.

I also was committed to work a table in the finals session with my 6 kids, this guy informed me that he was going to have me arrested for trespassing if i showed up. In the meantime, many others were on the floor without pink passes, wrestlers were down prior to five matches and he was concentrating on a power play with me. i went to the stands and sat behind mat 13, he periodically came up and asked me to leave the building. He then waited until my 14 yr old son was with me and came up and told my son that I that his Dad was going to be arrested. I left and came back in about an hour through the pass gate with my kids to work a table in the finals, he saw me in the bathroom, i had both my coaches pass and afternoon table workers pass on plus my band, he stated that my credentials were invalid and i should leave, this time i completely ignored him and went to work my table, he informed me later that since i had my kids with me that he would let it slide. i agree Bronco,,what a trip. one of the best days of my life coaching my kids at the state tournament turned in to a day where i was harassed and bullied.

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That is unbelievable!!! This should not be allowed to happen. Let's hope this person is not there next year.

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I had a simular experience a few years back with the shaved head security idiot. I hope they are not asked to return in the future.

Re: Expocenter Security Guard On Power Trip #428 03/31/04 03:27 AM
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They should just hold state somewhere else like the coliseum where you can bring food in and more closer to the other districts than just district 1

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That same SUPER IDIOT has been at the same stairs leading down to the wrestling mats for several years. He has been doing the same EGO-DRIVEN stupid harrassment. If for no other reason, if they can't get rid of that idiot I would be in favor of moving the State Tournament. He is a real JERK.

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He wouldn't let a wrestler back on the floor to pick up his plaque either!!!!!!!!!!!!

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it's called DOING THERE JOB..you all can find anything to grip about can't you!!!what's next light bulb burned out in the restroom?

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I think from what I have read, there has been a little more than just "DOING THEIR JOB" involved here. He does have a job to do, but I think there is a limit of how rude and disrespectful you can be. Especially when it is us who is paying he his paycheck. If we didn't rent the facility, he wouldn't have that job to get paid for.

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Quote:
Originally posted by sixshooter:
it's called DOING THERE JOB..you all can find anything to grip about can't you!!!what's next light bulb burned out in the restroom?
Yes, That security guard was doing his job but he was abusing his authority.
P.S. learn to use the correct words like "their" instead of "there" and correctly spell words.

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they probably would'nt have to be that way if you did'nt have brat kids keep trying to go down the wrong stairs and have to be told four times and then you have your "to good to walk around coaches" that get pissed off cause they have to walk around. i even saw one coach (i won't say from where)get up in the guys face and tell him he's gonna get his later.

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yes, i caught that a little to last but thanks for the grammer lesson .

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did it agian "late" sorry BEST1

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they probably would'nt have to be that way if you did'nt have brat kids keep trying to go down the wrong stairs
Brat kids? I thought this was about the KIDS? I'm a fellow coach of Illegalhold and believe me, he has nothing but the wrestlers best interest in mind. He is a well respected coach and official known throughout Kansas and the Midwest. There is no need for the security guard to even act like this. The area he was in was one of the least congested areas of the floor as it was near the 16u mat.


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I really wish the man was "just doing his job" that would have been fine with me. I tried to reason with him regarding my situation and it only escalated his "bullying" behaviors. I was not going to post anything but just leave to an isolated instance where somehow i had ticked the guy off, however, after Bronco's post i could not refrain.

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"Brat kids"? Are you OK sixshooter? A kid that is picking up his plaque? As Suzanne said, "Any reasonable person", must not include sixshooter.


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They are all Brats. We need more people like superstud security guard and sixshooter at these kids events.


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he tried to send me up too i just laughed at him and walked away. i wasn't going to put up w/ that i was up in 5 matches and i usually warm up around 10 and i'd been down there warmin up and in the middle of my warmup he asked me to go upstairs that i didn't look like a wrestler? WTF IS THAT. NO BUDDY I JUST LIKE WEARING THIS GOOFY SINGLET AND THESE WRESTLING SHOES FOR THE FUN OF IT. i mean come on


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We have enough stress to handle as coaches, wrestlers, and parents and we do not need this blatent abuse of authority to make matters even more stressful. Please take the time to call Mr. Walker (Head of security for the Expo) and explain your situation. I will do the same and hopfully others will as well. The number is 785-235-1986 and ask for Charlie Walker.

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Craig Adams just came up with the best post. Everyone needs to call the Expo Center and if they want to retain that SUPER IDIOT another year it is time to move the State Tournament someplace else. Maybe they could have a Super Team of Super Idiots working next year without a tournament, and they could all abuse eachother. It sounds like SIXSHOOTER, or whatever his name is, just might work out on that team.

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